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FIWARE.Request.Tech.Apps.ApplicationMashup.HelpForBuildingAnArchitectureUsingWirecloud

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      Hi,

      We're currently filling the template to apply for the first open call and
      we're planning to use Application Mashup for the project.
      I have some questions regarding this GE.

      We have a platform based on the e-learning platform Claroline Connect.
      We would like to add a web application that is linked to Claroline Connect
      but only displays a limited amount of information to logged in users.

      If I understood correctly what can be done with Application Mashup, I have
      to create 2 new widgets :

      • one to identify the users with a form
      • one to display what needs to be displayed
        Is that correct?

      If I create these two widgets, do I need to make them public, or can I
      develop some private widgets?

      Could you tell me if I understand those things in the right way?

      Thanks in advance for your help,

      Regards,

      Emilien Schneider
      07 82 25 30 18
      http://emilienschneider.poucr.net
      – Soutenez des projets responsables : http://www.wedogood.co

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        FIWARE-TECH-HELP FIWARE-TECH-HELP added a comment -

        Thank you very much for your answers.

        Your answer about widget privacy is complete: I hadn't really understood
        that we had an special account.

        Now what we plan to do exactly:

        • build a complete platform thanks to Claroline Connect, which is best to
          use on a computer
        • create a web app with Application Mashup, which uses the Claroline
          Connect platform datas to
          • identify users (only sign in)
          • get the different contents (documents, audio, video, exercises) to
            display it

        Do you think it is feasible with the Wirecloud solution?

        Thanks again for your answers,

        Emilien Schneider
        07 82 25 30 18
        http://emilienschneider.poucr.net
        – Soutenez des projets responsables : http://www.wedogood.co

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        FIWARE-TECH-HELP FIWARE-TECH-HELP added a comment - Thank you very much for your answers. Your answer about widget privacy is complete: I hadn't really understood that we had an special account. Now what we plan to do exactly: build a complete platform thanks to Claroline Connect, which is best to use on a computer create a web app with Application Mashup, which uses the Claroline Connect platform datas to identify users (only sign in) get the different contents (documents, audio, video, exercises) to display it Do you think it is feasible with the Wirecloud solution? Thanks again for your answers, Emilien Schneider 07 82 25 30 18 http://emilienschneider.poucr.net – Soutenez des projets responsables : http://www.wedogood.co – _______________________________________________ Fiware-tech-help mailing list Fiware-tech-help@lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-tech-help
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        aarranz Álvaro Arranz added a comment -

        Dear Emilien,

        First of all thank your very much for your interest in our GE.

        Please find below my answers, inlined in this email.

        We need more information to be of any help. We do not know whether you
        intend to use Wirecloud to "widgetize" the Claroline Connect platform and
        allow users to configure their own dashboards/workspaces with the widgets
        of their interest (or, similarly, whether you intend to preconfigure these
        dashboards during the configuration of a new course) or, on the contrary,
        you are thinking about using widgets within your portal. The first approach
        is the most useful (e.g. Jira allows you to configure your own dashboard
        using widgets, but does not has the power of Wirecloud behind the scenes so
        it imposes more restrictions). The second approach is also feasible but you
        will face more restrictions because what you are doing in the end is
        publishing a mashup outside Wirecloud and embedded in your own portal.
        Could you please further elaborate on your approach?

        Regarding the two widgets you mention. Both of them are feasible if you
        intend to embed html+javascript+css in them. In the end, a widget is
        treated by the platform as a simple iFrame. A different question is how you
        design it in terms of endpoints to make it more reusable (i.e. participate
        in different mashups connected to different widgets). Moreover, regarding
        the widget that identify users with a form (are you talking about a
        registration/ sign up?) you can opt to use FIWARE IdM GE, Wirecloud
        registration/sign in or your own approach as long as you manage to
        integrate it with Wirecloud (many Django connectors/backends are supported
        by Wirecloud).

        Also take into account that you can deploy your own customized instances of
        WireCloud (reference implementation of the Application Mashup GE) and
        avoid the dependences with the FIWARE Lab portal (the mashup portal at
        FIWARE Lab is based on Wirecloud, but you are locked-in with the FIWARE
        IdM, etc.). You can also make modifications to it (maintaining the AGPL
        license).

        html+css+javascript, so their code will be downloaded by the client.
        Nevertheless, when you upload a widget to Wirecloud, it is only accessible
        from your account, unless you decide to publish it in the catalog/store and
        share/sell it. The backend code is maintained "private" and you can choose
        your own license for your widgets. The do not need to comply with AGPL.
        Álvaro

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        aarranz Álvaro Arranz added a comment - Dear Emilien, First of all thank your very much for your interest in our GE. Please find below my answers, inlined in this email. We need more information to be of any help. We do not know whether you intend to use Wirecloud to "widgetize" the Claroline Connect platform and allow users to configure their own dashboards/workspaces with the widgets of their interest (or, similarly, whether you intend to preconfigure these dashboards during the configuration of a new course) or, on the contrary, you are thinking about using widgets within your portal. The first approach is the most useful (e.g. Jira allows you to configure your own dashboard using widgets, but does not has the power of Wirecloud behind the scenes so it imposes more restrictions). The second approach is also feasible but you will face more restrictions because what you are doing in the end is publishing a mashup outside Wirecloud and embedded in your own portal. Could you please further elaborate on your approach? Regarding the two widgets you mention. Both of them are feasible if you intend to embed html+javascript+css in them. In the end, a widget is treated by the platform as a simple iFrame. A different question is how you design it in terms of endpoints to make it more reusable (i.e. participate in different mashups connected to different widgets). Moreover, regarding the widget that identify users with a form (are you talking about a registration/ sign up?) you can opt to use FIWARE IdM GE, Wirecloud registration/sign in or your own approach as long as you manage to integrate it with Wirecloud (many Django connectors/backends are supported by Wirecloud). Also take into account that you can deploy your own customized instances of WireCloud (reference implementation of the Application Mashup GE) and avoid the dependences with the FIWARE Lab portal (the mashup portal at FIWARE Lab is based on Wirecloud, but you are locked-in with the FIWARE IdM, etc.). You can also make modifications to it (maintaining the AGPL license). html+css+javascript, so their code will be downloaded by the client. Nevertheless, when you upload a widget to Wirecloud, it is only accessible from your account, unless you decide to publish it in the catalog/store and share/sell it. The backend code is maintained "private" and you can choose your own license for your widgets. The do not need to comply with AGPL. Álvaro _______________________________________________ Fiware-tech-help mailing list Fiware-tech-help@lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-tech-help
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        FIWARE-TECH-HELP FIWARE-TECH-HELP added a comment -

        Thanks!

        Javier and Álvaro, do you have answers to these requests?
        We need to complete the form this week.

        Regards,

        Emilien Schneider
        07 82 25 30 18
        http://emilienschneider.poucr.net
        – Soutenez des projets responsables : http://www.wedogood.co

        On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:25 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <

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        FIWARE-TECH-HELP FIWARE-TECH-HELP added a comment - Thanks! Javier and Álvaro, do you have answers to these requests? We need to complete the form this week. Regards, Emilien Schneider 07 82 25 30 18 http://emilienschneider.poucr.net – Soutenez des projets responsables : http://www.wedogood.co – On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:25 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < _______________________________________________ Fiware-tech-help mailing list Fiware-tech-help@lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-tech-help
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        mcp Miguel Carrillo added a comment -

        Dear Emilien,

        I put you in direct contact with the GE owners, Javier and Álvaro They should be able to help

        Kind regards,

        Miguel

        El 22/10/2014 15:10, Emilien Schneider escribió:
        Hi,

        We're currently filling the template to apply for the first open call and we're planning to use Application Mashup for the project.
        I have some questions regarding this GE.

        We have a platform based on the e-learning platform Claroline Connect.
        We would like to add a web application that is linked to Claroline Connect but only displays a limited amount of information to logged in users.

        If I understood correctly what can be done with Application Mashup, I have to create 2 new widgets :

        • one to identify the users with a form
        • one to display what needs to be displayed
          Is that correct?

        If I create these two widgets, do I need to make them public, or can I develop some private widgets?

        Could you tell me if I understand those things in the right way?

        Thanks in advance for your help,

        Regards,

        Emilien Schneider
        07 82 25 30 18
        http://emilienschneider.poucr.net
        – Soutenez des projets responsables : http://www.wedogood.co

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        mcp Miguel Carrillo added a comment - Dear Emilien, I put you in direct contact with the GE owners, Javier and Álvaro They should be able to help Kind regards, Miguel El 22/10/2014 15:10, Emilien Schneider escribió: Hi, We're currently filling the template to apply for the first open call and we're planning to use Application Mashup for the project. I have some questions regarding this GE. We have a platform based on the e-learning platform Claroline Connect. We would like to add a web application that is linked to Claroline Connect but only displays a limited amount of information to logged in users. If I understood correctly what can be done with Application Mashup, I have to create 2 new widgets : one to identify the users with a form one to display what needs to be displayed Is that correct? If I create these two widgets, do I need to make them public, or can I develop some private widgets? Could you tell me if I understand those things in the right way? Thanks in advance for your help, Regards, Emilien Schneider 07 82 25 30 18 http://emilienschneider.poucr.net – Soutenez des projets responsables : http://www.wedogood.co –

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