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Status: Closed
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Fix Version/s: 2021
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Component/s: FIWARE-GENERAL-HELP
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Dear Sir:
We have not received an answer from de Incense Acelerator. They may be on holidays and we need an answer as soon as possible, because the closing date is September the 15th and we cannot allocate resources to prepare a proposal until being sure that Sandetel is eligible.
BR,
Ovidio
De: Ovidio ovidio.gonzalez@juntadeandalucia.es
Enviado el: domingo, 16 de agosto de 2015 1:38
Para: 'info@incense-accelerator.com'
CC: 'eugenio.vazquez@juntadeandalucia.es'
Asunto: We are a public company and we are not sure if we are eligible (Incense)
Dear Sir:
Sociedad Andaluza para el Desarrollo de las Telecomunicaciones, S.A. (SANDETEL) is a public company, wholly owned by the Regional Government of Andalusia and attached to the Regional Ministry of Employment, Enterprise and Trade. It is a non-profit organization that returns any profits to the Regional Government.
Sandetel is interesting in presenting a proposal to Incense 2nd Open Call (we have a Commitment letter from Enel Spain (before Endesa)) but we are not sure if we are a SME due to the following reasons:
1. Sandetel (www.sandetel.es) is company with a turnover no exceeding 35 millions € and with a staff of 230 employees.
2. Our owners are the public bodys: “Agencia de Innovación y Desarrollo de Andalucía (IDEA, http://www.agenciaidea.es/ )” and the “Agencia Pública Empresarial de la Radio y Televisión de Andalucía (RTVA, http://www.canalsur.es/rtva-2809.html )”.
According to COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION of 6 May 2003 concerning the definition of micro, small and medium-sized enterprises, we think we can be consider a partner enterprise because our owners are public.
We would like to know if we are eligible (3.1 Type of beneficiaries) if we present a proposal to Incense?
Best Regards,
Ovidio González
Mobile: +34-697958496
MG_Sandetel.jpg
Ovidio González de Uña
Departamento de Consultoría y Desarrollo Corporativo
Avda. Camino de los Descubrimientos, 17
Pabellón de Francia - PCT Cartuja
41092 – Sevilla
Tfn: +34-955 06 26 00
e-mail: ovidio.gonzalez@juntadeandalucia.es
web: www.sandetel.es <http://www.sandetel.es/>
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Dear Malena:
We have contacted with NCP in CDTI and they are on holidays. The NCP for H2020 in Andalucia (Jaime Duran) has recommended us to contact Fi-Ware team as they will decide if we are eligible or not.
The owners of Sandetel (S.A.) are public bodys: “Agencia de Innovación y Desarrollo de Andalucía - 51% shares (IDEA, http://www.agenciaidea.es/ )” and the “Agencia Pública Empresarial de la Radio y Televisión de Andalucía - 49% shares (RTVA, http://www.canalsur.es/rtva-2809.html )
We have read the SME definition by UE (document attached) but we are not sure if Sandetel is eligible.
¿Do you know if next week there will be any Fiware team to give us an answer?
BR,
Ovidio
----Mensaje original----
De: Donato Cohen, Malena malena.donato@atos.net
Enviado el: jueves, 20 de agosto de 2015 12:15
Para: ovidio.gonzalez@juntadeandalucia.es; eugenio.vazquez@juntadeandalucia.es
CC: Manuel Escriche (JIRA); MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO (miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com)
Asunto: RE: [FI-WARE-JIRA] (HELP-3834) [Fiware-general-help] RV: We are a public company and we are not sure if we are eligible (Incense)
Dear Ovidio, Eugenio,
I've tried to reach someone from INCENSE team but it seems all key contacts are away on holidays (I've contacted already 5 people).
So anyway, we found a partial solution, so you don't miss more days, apart from FIWARE team there's other channel you can use to ask for information, for your enquiry you can contact the National Contact (CDTI). They will be able to answer your question.
See these links with their contact details:
http://www.cdti.es/index.asp
And to search by topic/area:
http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/desktop/en/support/national_contact_points.html
Please, let me know if we can help any further.
We apologise for all inconveniences,
Best regards,
Malena
Dear Ovidio,
I understand. Yes, hopefully all are back next week and we can give you an answer.
Best regards,
Malena
OK
----Mensaje original----
De: Donato Cohen, Malena malena.donato@atos.net
Enviado el: jueves, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:54
Para: Ovidio; eugenio.vazquez@juntadeandalucia.es
CC: 'Manuel Escriche (JIRA)'; 'MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO'; info@incense-accelerator.com
Asunto: RE: [FI-WARE-JIRA] (HELP-3834) [Fiware-general-help] RV: We are a public company and we are not sure if we are eligible (Incense)
Dear Ovidio,
I understand. Yes, hopefully all are back next week and we can give you an answer.
Best regards,
Malena
We close the ticket, this person answers them: Miguel Angel Comin Candial <miguelangel.comin@fundingbox.com>
they cannot participate.
Malena
Thanks for you answer.
De: Miguel Angel Comin Candial miguelangel.comin@fundingbox.com
Enviado el: lunes, 24 de agosto de 2015 11:26
Para: ovidio.gonzalez@juntadeandalucia.es; 'eugenio.vazquez@juntadeandalucia.es
CC: Luca Seletto; Paolo Lombardi; David Bernal; Donato Cohen, Malena
Asunto: RV: We are a public company and we are not sure if we are eligible (Incense)
Dear Ovidio,
We have received your consultation trough the FIWARE General Help desk, sorry we did not received your consultation on the 'info@incense-accelerator.com' mail box.
In any case find here our answer as INCENSe Accelerator.
Even if SANDETEL could fit SME profile According to COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION of 6 May 2003 and then be considered as an eligible applicant according to point 3.1 Type of beneficiaries in INCENSe Guide for Applicant, most probably SANDETEL (as far as it is owned by 2 public entities) would not be prioritized in the evaluation process as would not be considered as a Startup in the sense explained in point 4 Type of projects in the same Guide for Applicant.
In INCENSe Accelerator we expect to fund projects coming from companies where founder owned at least 51% of Shareholder’s Equity, understanding founder as entrepreneurs. A company, even a SME, being owned and promoted by some public entities would not be understood as an Startup in this sense.
As conclusion, you could apply to INCENSe 2nd Open call but you would be in a weak position in comparison with other companies fitting better in this Startups profile.
I expect this information answer your question.
Un saludo/Best Regards.
Miguel Angel Comín Candial, Project Manager, Entrepreneurship & Innovation
e-mail: miguelangel.comin@fundingbox.com
www.fundingbox.com
Hola Javier,
Te escribo porque nos ha llegado a la lista de "general help" de FIWARE un email para participar en vuestra 2da call. Son una empresa andaluza (su email esta más abajo) pero al parecer que está financiada mayoritariamente con fondos públicos y parece ser una SME, pero quieren saber si pueden enviar una propuesta a vuestra convocatoria de INCENSE.
Por favor, ¿le pueden contestar? Ponme en copia por favor, así puedo seguir el tema y cerrar el ticket.
Muchas gracias,
Saludos,
Malena