[HELP-5752] FIWARE.Request.Lab.Spain.IaaS GE usage: support request - JIRA

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ilknur chulani added a comment - 27/Jan/16 4:10 PM

Dear Alfonso,

Moving the ticket to the FIWARE-LAB-HELP as it seems more like a question for the lab team.

Kind regards,

ilknur

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ilknur chulani added a comment - 27/Jan/16 4:10 PM Dear Alfonso, Moving the ticket to the FIWARE-LAB-HELP as it seems more like a question for the lab team. Kind regards, ilknur

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FW External User added a comment - 15/Feb/16 5:52 PM

Dear Andrea,

Easy. I guess that you have a trial user account and I am asking you to apply for an upgrade to a community account. If you go to http://lab.fiware.org/ (the homepage of the Lab), it is clearly explained so I do not think that you are going to experience any trouble:
[cid:part1.04030308.05080201@telefonica.com]

Then you will have to fill in a form that enquires all that.

You can mention that the details of our previous messages are on ticket ~~HELP-5752~~ (https://jira.fiware.org/browse/HELP-5752) where all the conversation is being recorded.

Rgds.,

Miguel

El 15/02/2016 a las 17:30, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear Miguel,
thank you for your response.
I registered to Fiware Lab few weeks ago.
Below a screenshot of the Fiware Lab interface.

Where can I specify the "accelerator where you belong, what you want to do, the resources you need, etc."?

Do I need to explain again, in this interface, all the stuff we discussed in our email thread??

TKS
A.

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:21 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

I have been checking internally with a few people. Both scenarios are cleared and we do not see a problem in doing what you propose.

I am assuming that you haven't applied for a community account on FIWARE Lab yet. If thisi s the case, please go to FIWARE Lab, please apply for one and specify in the corresponding form the accelerator where you belong, what you want to do, the resources you need, etc. They will provide the data you need.

Regards,

Miguel

El 05/02/2016 a las 21:29, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear Miguel,

I know that the scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, but honestly we don't need to become OpenStack setup expert, this will not give us any added value, it's useless ad out of topic for us (to become a cloud provider it's not our ambition...).

As I wrote before, we already use OpenStack "as a service" (namely via API) in several other cloud providers, in this project we need to integrate our platform with the actual and real, FIWARE cloud infrastructure in order to stress it, evaluate it, compare it and obtain KPIs about its performances and reliability.

In a nutshell, in our project we need to investigate the possibility to use the FIWARE cloud infrastructure as a public cloud instead of Amazon, or Google Compute, or Azure, or RackSpace, etc.
To do that, we need to test "what's under the hood" (physical nodes, networking, etc) not OpenStack (which is an on-top software layer we already know it's a good product...).

Hope this mail can clarify our needs.

Again, thank you for your support!

BR
A.

======================================================

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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:05 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Dear Andrea,

I understand but let me clarify that Scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, nothing precludes from taking the necessary cloud GEs and installing them wherever, this would create a small clone of FIWARE Lab (what you call "the FIWARE cloud"). It would not a make a difference. Then, you could invoke the services in your infra from different servers to replicate the escenario.

Let me explore scenario 1 and then we'll see

Regards,

Miguel

El 05/02/2016 a las 16:43, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear Miguel,

thanks a lot for your response.

I understand that our request could appears as "exotic", but our primary goal in the "SaaS-Fi" project consists exactly to evaluate - from a technical and also business point of view - the reliability of the "IaaS GE" and the related FIWARE cloud, using it specifically "as a public cloud provider" (that means instead of, and/or compared with: AWS, Azure, GCE, etc.).

This require to use the OpenStack APIs (namely in a very "IaaS mode"), instead of the FIWARE Lab interface (namely in a "PaaS mode").

For this reason, you understand that your scenario 2 (we create a cloud environment on our own on our infrastructure to do this) is not an option, because in that way we doesn't really use the FIWARE cloud (but only OpenStack, that we already know... very well...).

We hope for the scenario 2, and for a quick response, because we need to respect strict project reporting deadlines...

Thank you again,
BR
A.

======================================================

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CTO

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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Dear Andrea,

This request is unusual. FIWARE Lab is used via a portal that we expose on the internet for the provision on virtual infrastructure. People would experiment with FIWARE technologies inside such VMs. This is the usage scenario that we have always envisioned.

What you are asking for is somewhat "exotic" which does not mean that it out of the question, we need to see what to do with this. I wonder if the people in charge of FIWARE Lab have offered this in the past as a possibility, I am not aware of it.

The are two scenarios as I see it:

Creating a community user and granting you access to the services via REST interfaces, as you request.
The obvious alternative is you creating a cloud environment on your own on your infrastructure to do this, but then you would not be benefiting of FIWARE Lab.

Please be aware that FIWARE Lab is a test environment where accounts are volatile (they expire and all instantiated resources get irreversibly deleted)

I'll try to get hold of the Chief Architect and Leader of FIWARE (Juanjo Hierro) to see what he thinks. This may take some time.

Regards,

Miguel

El 27/01/2016 a las 14:32, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear sirs,

our company is working on a project called "SaaSi-FI", in the SOUL-FI Round B call.

We need to integrate in our platform the IaaS Resource Management GE.

ClouDesire, our platform, is a cloud-agnostic marketplace where independent software vendors can offer their products (web applications) which can be purchased by the end-users.

When an application is sold, ClouDesire performs a self-deploy on a selected (by the end-user) cloud provider; at the end of the deployment process a running instance of the purchased application becomes available on the cloud for the end-user.

Our purpose in the "SaaSi-FI" project is to leverage and use the IaaS GE as a "public provider" for ClouDesire.

For this reason, we need to use the IaaS GE's API in order to programmatically create VMs in your datacenter.

Just to avoid misunderstandings: we don't need to install our own IaaS Resource Management GE instance somewhere, we would simply "use it" as-a-service. At he same time, we don't need to install our application in the FIWARE Lab Nodes.

As I said before, we would simply treat FIWARE as a "public provider".

That means that we need to use the OpenStack API exposed in the FIWARE Lab in order to programmatically deploy VMs on demand.

The questions are:

where is the API endpoint?
what kind of credentials we can use to access the API?
are there some limitations (for example to the number of deployables VMs, or to the reachability of the deployed VMs)?

Thank you in advance,
BR

======================================================

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FW External User added a comment - 15/Feb/16 5:52 PM Dear Andrea, Easy. I guess that you have a trial user account and I am asking you to apply for an upgrade to a community account. If you go to http://lab.fiware.org/ (the homepage of the Lab), it is clearly explained so I do not think that you are going to experience any trouble: [cid:part1.04030308.05080201@telefonica.com] Then you will have to fill in a form that enquires all that. You can mention that the details of our previous messages are on ticket HELP-5752 ( https://jira.fiware.org/browse/HELP-5752 ) where all the conversation is being recorded. Rgds., Miguel El 15/02/2016 a las 17:30, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió: Dear Miguel, thank you for your response. I registered to Fiware Lab few weeks ago. Below a screenshot of the Fiware Lab interface. Where can I specify the "accelerator where you belong, what you want to do, the resources you need, etc."? Do I need to explain again, in this interface, all the stuff we discussed in our email thread?? TKS A. [Inline image 1] ====================================================== Andrea Vecchi CTO mobile +39 349 6379920<tel:%2B39%20349%206379920> skype: andreavecchi ClouDesire Srl Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy www.cloudesire.com< http://www.cloudesire.com/ > | < info@cloudesire.com > info@cloudesire.com< info@cloudesire.com > twitter: < http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > www.twitter.com/cloudesire< http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > t +39 050877088<tel:%2B39%20050877088> | f +39 0508755498<tel:%2B39%200508755498> ====================================================== Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie This message, for the D. Lgs. n.196 of 30/06/2003, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:21 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO << miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com >miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com< miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com >> wrote: Dear all, I have been checking internally with a few people. Both scenarios are cleared and we do not see a problem in doing what you propose. I am assuming that you haven't applied for a community account on FIWARE Lab yet. If thisi s the case, please go to FIWARE Lab, please apply for one and specify in the corresponding form the accelerator where you belong, what you want to do, the resources you need, etc. They will provide the data you need. Regards, Miguel El 05/02/2016 a las 21:29, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió: Dear Miguel, I know that the scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, but honestly we don't need to become OpenStack setup expert, this will not give us any added value, it's useless ad out of topic for us (to become a cloud provider it's not our ambition...). As I wrote before, we already use OpenStack "as a service" (namely via API) in several other cloud providers, in this project we need to integrate our platform with the actual and real, FIWARE cloud infrastructure in order to stress it, evaluate it, compare it and obtain KPIs about its performances and reliability. In a nutshell, in our project we need to investigate the possibility to use the FIWARE cloud infrastructure as a public cloud instead of Amazon, or Google Compute, or Azure, or RackSpace, etc. To do that, we need to test "what's under the hood" (physical nodes, networking, etc) not OpenStack (which is an on-top software layer we already know it's a good product...). Hope this mail can clarify our needs. Again, thank you for your support! BR A. ====================================================== Andrea Vecchi CTO mobile +39 349 6379920<tel:%2B39%20349%206379920> skype: andreavecchi ClouDesire Srl Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy www.cloudesire.com< http://www.cloudesire.com/ > | < info@cloudesire.com > info@cloudesire.com< info@cloudesire.com > twitter: < http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > www.twitter.com/cloudesire< http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > t +39 050877088<tel:%2B39%20050877088> | f +39 0508755498<tel:%2B39%200508755498> ====================================================== Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie This message, for the D. Lgs. n.196 of 30/06/2003, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:05 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com< miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com >> wrote: Dear Andrea, I understand but let me clarify that Scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, nothing precludes from taking the necessary cloud GEs and installing them wherever, this would create a small clone of FIWARE Lab (what you call "the FIWARE cloud"). It would not a make a difference. Then, you could invoke the services in your infra from different servers to replicate the escenario. Let me explore scenario 1 and then we'll see Regards, Miguel El 05/02/2016 a las 16:43, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió: Dear Miguel, thanks a lot for your response. I understand that our request could appears as "exotic", but our primary goal in the "SaaS-Fi" project consists exactly to evaluate - from a technical and also business point of view - the reliability of the "IaaS GE" and the related FIWARE cloud, using it specifically "as a public cloud provider" (that means instead of, and/or compared with: AWS, Azure, GCE, etc.). This require to use the OpenStack APIs (namely in a very "IaaS mode"), instead of the FIWARE Lab interface (namely in a "PaaS mode"). For this reason, you understand that your scenario 2 (we create a cloud environment on our own on our infrastructure to do this) is not an option, because in that way we doesn't really use the FIWARE cloud (but only OpenStack, that we already know... very well...). We hope for the scenario 2, and for a quick response, because we need to respect strict project reporting deadlines... Thank you again, BR A. ====================================================== Andrea Vecchi CTO mobile +39 349 6379920<tel:%2B39%20349%206379920> skype: andreavecchi ClouDesire Srl Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy www.cloudesire.com< http://www.cloudesire.com/ > | info@cloudesire.com< info@cloudesire.com > twitter: < http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > www.twitter.com/cloudesire< http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > t +39 050877088<tel:%2B39%20050877088> | f +39 0508755498<tel:%2B39%200508755498> ====================================================== Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie This message, for the D. Lgs. n.196 of 30/06/2003, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com< miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com >> wrote: Dear Andrea, This request is unusual. FIWARE Lab is used via a portal that we expose on the internet for the provision on virtual infrastructure. People would experiment with FIWARE technologies inside such VMs. This is the usage scenario that we have always envisioned. What you are asking for is somewhat "exotic" which does not mean that it out of the question, we need to see what to do with this. I wonder if the people in charge of FIWARE Lab have offered this in the past as a possibility, I am not aware of it. The are two scenarios as I see it: Creating a community user and granting you access to the services via REST interfaces, as you request. The obvious alternative is you creating a cloud environment on your own on your infrastructure to do this, but then you would not be benefiting of FIWARE Lab. Please be aware that FIWARE Lab is a test environment where accounts are volatile (they expire and all instantiated resources get irreversibly deleted) I'll try to get hold of the Chief Architect and Leader of FIWARE (Juanjo Hierro) to see what he thinks. This may take some time. Regards, Miguel El 27/01/2016 a las 14:32, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió: Dear sirs, our company is working on a project called "SaaSi-FI", in the SOUL-FI Round B call. We need to integrate in our platform the IaaS Resource Management GE. ClouDesire, our platform, is a cloud-agnostic marketplace where independent software vendors can offer their products (web applications) which can be purchased by the end-users. When an application is sold, ClouDesire performs a self-deploy on a selected (by the end-user) cloud provider; at the end of the deployment process a running instance of the purchased application becomes available on the cloud for the end-user. Our purpose in the "SaaSi-FI" project is to leverage and use the IaaS GE as a "public provider" for ClouDesire. For this reason, we need to use the IaaS GE's API in order to programmatically create VMs in your datacenter. Just to avoid misunderstandings: we don't need to install our own IaaS Resource Management GE instance somewhere, we would simply "use it" as-a-service. At he same time, we don't need to install our application in the FIWARE Lab Nodes. As I said before, we would simply treat FIWARE as a "public provider". That means that we need to use the OpenStack API exposed in the FIWARE Lab in order to programmatically deploy VMs on demand. The questions are: where is the API endpoint? what kind of credentials we can use to access the API? are there some limitations (for example to the number of deployables VMs, or to the reachability of the deployed VMs)? Thank you in advance, BR ====================================================== Andrea Vecchi CTO mobile +39 349 6379920<tel:%2B39%20349%206379920> skype: andreavecchi ClouDesire Srl Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy < http://www.cloudesire.com/ >www.cloudesire.com< http://www.cloudesire.com > | < info@cloudesire.com > info@cloudesire.com< info@cloudesire.com > twitter: < http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > www.twitter.com/cloudesire< http://www.twitter.com/cloudesire > t +39 050877088<tel:%2B39%20050877088> | f +39 0508755498<tel:%2B39%200508755498> ====================================================== Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie This message, for the D. 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FW External User added a comment - 15/Feb/16 6:06 PM

Thank you Miguel,

I requested the upgrade, specifying our needs reported in the ticket.

I was obliged to specify "funny" numbers (100) for the requested VMs,
vCPUs, RAM, etc. because we doesn't know in advance how many VMs, vCPUs,
etc. we need to "instantiate" (not to "use") via API.

Hope this will not scare anyone....
TKS
A.

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Andrea Vecchi
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FW External User added a comment - 15/Feb/16 6:06 PM Thank you Miguel, I requested the upgrade, specifying our needs reported in the ticket. I was obliged to specify "funny" numbers (100) for the requested VMs, vCPUs, RAM, etc. because we doesn't know in advance how many VMs, vCPUs, etc. we need to "instantiate" (not to "use") via API. Hope this will not scare anyone.... TKS A. ====================================================== Andrea Vecchi CTO mobile +39 349 6379920 skype: andreavecchi ClouDesire Srl Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy www.cloudesire.com | info@cloudesire.com twitter: www.twitter.com/cloudesire t +39 050877088 | f +39 0508755498 ====================================================== Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie This message, for the D. Lgs. n.196 of 30/06/2003, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:50 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO < Since January 1st, old domains won't be supported and messages sent to any domain different to @lists.fiware.org will be lost. Please, send your messages using the new domain (Fiware-general-help@lists.fiware.org) instead of the old one. _______________________________________________ Fiware-general-help mailing list Fiware-general-help@lists.fiware.org https://lists.fiware.org/listinfo/fiware-general-help

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FW External User added a comment - 22/Feb/16 11:52 AM

Dear Miguel,

my community account upgrade request was rejected

"Since the required request is not well defined, maximum quota could be
assigned".

As I wrote you in my previous email, when I asked for the upgrade, I was
obliged to *not *specify a precise resource number (VMs, vCPUs, RAM) in my
request, because we need to istantiate via API new VMs, and for this
reason we don't know in advance the expected resources amount...

The only thing we need, in this project, is the* OpenStack API endpoint*
and obviously the credentials to use it.

You asked me to attach, in the upgrade request, our previous mail exchange
and the related ticket number; I've done it, but I think that who took in
charge my request didn't read it...

Can you help me to solve this issue?

TKS
A.

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FW External User added a comment - 22/Feb/16 11:52 AM Dear Miguel, my community account upgrade request was rejected "Since the required request is not well defined, maximum quota could be assigned". As I wrote you in my previous email, when I asked for the upgrade, I was obliged to *not *specify a precise resource number (VMs, vCPUs, RAM) in my request, because we need to istantiate via API new VMs, and for this reason we don't know in advance the expected resources amount... The only thing we need, in this project, is the* OpenStack API endpoint* and obviously the credentials to use it. You asked me to attach, in the upgrade request, our previous mail exchange and the related ticket number; I've done it, but I think that who took in charge my request didn't read it... Can you help me to solve this issue? TKS A. ====================================================== Andrea Vecchi CTO mobile +39 349 6379920 skype: andreavecchi ClouDesire Srl Via Gozzini, 15/17 - 56121 Pisa (PI) - Italy www.cloudesire.com | info@cloudesire.com twitter: www.twitter.com/cloudesire t +39 050877088 | f +39 0508755498 ====================================================== Ai sensi del D. Lgs. n.196 del 30/06/2003 si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola Le fosse pervenuto per errore, La preghiamo di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandocene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie This message, for the D. Lgs. n.196 of 30/06/2003, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire < Since January 1st, old domains won't be supported and messages sent to any domain different to @lists.fiware.org will be lost. Please, send your messages using the new domain (Fiware-general-help@lists.fiware.org) instead of the old one. _______________________________________________ Fiware-general-help mailing list Fiware-general-help@lists.fiware.org https://lists.fiware.org/listinfo/fiware-general-help

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FW External User added a comment - 22/Feb/16 12:20 PM

Sergio, Henar,

I see that there is activity here (note: Andrea, you do not have access to them, this is for internal reference)

Sergio, Henar, do I infer right if I say that this user has access now to FIWARE Lab resources?

Andrea, can you use it now? Sorry for all the mess, this request is a bit unusual for us.

Regards,

Miguel

El 22/02/2016 a las 11:50, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear Miguel,

my community account upgrade request was rejected

"Since the required request is not well defined, maximum quota could be assigned".

As I wrote you in my previous email, when I asked for the upgrade, I was obliged to not specify a precise resource number (VMs, vCPUs, RAM) in my request, because we need to istantiate via API new VMs, and for this reason we don't know in advance the expected resources amount...

The only thing we need, in this project, is the OpenStack API endpoint and obviously the credentials to use it.

You asked me to attach, in the upgrade request, our previous mail exchange and the related ticket number; I've done it, but I think that who took in charge my request didn't read it...

Can you help me to solve this issue?

TKS
A.

======================================================

Andrea Vecchi
CTO

mobile +39 349 6379920<tel:%2B39%20349%206379920>
skype: andreavecchi

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire <<andrea.vecchi@cloudesire.com>andrea.vecchi@cloudesire.com<andrea.vecchi@cloudesire.com>> wrote:
Thank you Miguel,

I requested the upgrade, specifying our needs reported in the ticket.

I was obliged to specify "funny" numbers (100) for the requested VMs, vCPUs, RAM, etc. because we doesn't know in advance how many VMs, vCPUs, etc. we need to "instantiate" (not to "use") via API.

Hope this will not scare anyone....
TKS
A.

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CTO

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:50 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Dear Andrea,

Easy. I guess that you have a trial user account and I am asking you to apply for an upgrade to a community account. If you go to http://lab.fiware.org/ (the homepage of the Lab), it is clearly explained so I do not think that you are going to experience any trouble:
[cid:part16.05080900.09010505@telefonica.com]

Then you will have to fill in a form that enquires all that.

You can mention that the details of our previous messages are on ticket ~~HELP-5752~~ (<https://jira.fiware.org/browse/HELP-5752>https://jira.fiware.org/browse/HELP-5752) where all the conversation is being recorded.

Rgds.,

Miguel

El 15/02/2016 a las 17:30, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear Miguel,
thank you for your response.
I registered to Fiware Lab few weeks ago.
Below a screenshot of the Fiware Lab interface.

Where can I specify the "accelerator where you belong, what you want to do, the resources you need, etc."?

Do I need to explain again, in this interface, all the stuff we discussed in our email thread??

TKS
A.

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:21 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Dear all,

I have been checking internally with a few people. Both scenarios are cleared and we do not see a problem in doing what you propose.

I am assuming that you haven't applied for a community account on FIWARE Lab yet. If thisi s the case, please go to FIWARE Lab, please apply for one and specify in the corresponding form the accelerator where you belong, what you want to do, the resources you need, etc. They will provide the data you need.

Regards,

Miguel

El 05/02/2016 a las 21:29, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear Miguel,

I know that the scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, but honestly we don't need to become OpenStack setup expert, this will not give us any added value, it's useless ad out of topic for us (to become a cloud provider it's not our ambition...).

As I wrote before, we already use OpenStack "as a service" (namely via API) in several other cloud providers, in this project we need to integrate our platform with the actual and real, FIWARE cloud infrastructure in order to stress it, evaluate it, compare it and obtain KPIs about its performances and reliability.

In a nutshell, in our project we need to investigate the possibility to use the FIWARE cloud infrastructure as a public cloud instead of Amazon, or Google Compute, or Azure, or RackSpace, etc.
To do that, we need to test "what's under the hood" (physical nodes, networking, etc) not OpenStack (which is an on-top software layer we already know it's a good product...).

Hope this mail can clarify our needs.

Again, thank you for your support!

BR
A.

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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:05 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Dear Andrea,

I understand but let me clarify that Scenario 2 is perfectly feasible, nothing precludes from taking the necessary cloud GEs and installing them wherever, this would create a small clone of FIWARE Lab (what you call "the FIWARE cloud"). It would not a make a difference. Then, you could invoke the services in your infra from different servers to replicate the escenario.

Let me explore scenario 1 and then we'll see

Regards,

Miguel

El 05/02/2016 a las 16:43, Andrea Vecchi - ClouDesire escribió:
Dear Miguel,

thanks a lot for your response.

I understand that our request could appears as "exotic", but our primary goal in the "SaaS-Fi" project consists exactly to evaluate - from a technical and also business point of view - the reliability of the "IaaS GE" and the related FIWARE cloud, using it specifically "as a public cloud provider" (that means instead of, and/or compared with: AWS, Azure, GCE, etc.).

This require to use the OpenStack APIs (namely in a very "IaaS mode"), instead of the FIWARE Lab interface (namely in a "PaaS mode").

For this reason, you understand that your scenario 2 (we create a cloud environment on our own on our infrastructure to do this) is not an option, because in that way we doesn't really use the FIWARE cloud (but only OpenStack, that we already know... very well...).

We hope for the scenario 2, and for a quick response, because we need to respect strict project reporting deadlines...

Thank you again,
BR
A.

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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com<miguel.carrillopacheco@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Dear Andrea,

This request is unusual. FIWARE Lab is used via a portal that we expose on the internet for the provision on virtual infrastructure. People would experiment with FIWARE technologies inside such VMs. This is the usage scenario that we have always envisioned.

What you are asking for is somewhat "exotic" which does not mean that it out of the question, we need to see what to do with this. I wonder if the people in charge of FIWARE Lab have offered this in the past as a possibility, I am not aware of it.

The are two scenarios as I see it:

Creating a community user and granting you access to the services via REST interfaces, as you request.
The obvious alternative is you creating a cloud environment on your own on your infrastructure to do this, but then you would not be benefiting of FIWARE Lab.