Dear Aggelos,

Administratively speaking this should be possible of course. But the important thing to check is whether the architecture would still be sound technically after removing the GE or replacing it.

Could you give some more details in order to understand the situation better? i.e. What is their architecture like, and the system envision? Which GE they are thinking of replacing? And with which GE, etc.?

Best regards,

ilknur

From: fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org<fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org> fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org On Behalf Of Aggelos Groumas
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Subject: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Architectural question

Dear Coachers,

i received a question about the potential replacement of a GE, due to time limitations.

They have several installation issues for which they are in contact with the GE owner. However, it is taking too long and they are afraid that they will be thrown out of schedule.

An administrative question: Can they change their architecture, replace the GE with another?

BR,
Aggelos Groumas
Bu mesaj ve ekleri gönderilen kişiye özeldir ve gizli bilgiler içerebilir. Eğer mesajın gönderilmek istendiği kişi değilseniz lütfen kopyalamayınız, başkalarına göndermeyiniz ve göndericiyi bilgilendiriniz. Internet üzerinden gönderilen mesajların güvenli ve hatasız olduğunun garantisi olmadığından Atos grubu mesajın içeriğinden sorumlu tutulamaz. Göndericinin bilgisayarı anti-virüs sistemleri tarafından taranmaktadır, ancak yine de mesajın virüs içermediği garanti edilemez ve gönderici, meydana gelebilecek zararlardan sorumlu tutulamaz.

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Hello again,

i had a response.

---------------------

Hello Aggelos,

my name is Ana and I'm a member of Agrishares team. Regarding our
architecture changes, currently it's as in the image below.
[image: Inline image 1]
What we realized is that our end-users are in great majority non-experts
regarding IT and that giving them liberty to edit their front-end is not
really advantage but may bring confusion and won't help our easy-to-use
goal. For this reason, we would like to remove Application Mashup GE and
develop static and predefined front-end. We would design a web site with
our vision of what the end-user needs and then adjust it according to
feedback that we receive later in the project. We do realize that
Application Mashup might be convenient for this adjustments but we fear
that it might take too much time to deploy it and that the added value is
not significant enough.

I would appreciate any comments or advice.

---------------------

BR,
Aggelos

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net>
wrote:

> Dear Aggelos,
>
>
>
> Administratively speaking this should be possible of course. But the
> important thing to check is whether the architecture would still be sound
> technically after removing the GE or replacing it.
>
>
>
> Could you give some more details in order to understand the situation
> better? i.e. What is their architecture like, and the system envision?
> Which GE they are thinking of replacing? And with which GE, etc.?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> ilknur
>
>
>
> From: fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org [
> fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org
> <fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org>] *On Behalf Of *Aggelos
> Groumas
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 6:02 PM
> To: fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org
> Subject: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Architectural question
>
>
>
> Dear Coachers,
>
>
>
> i received a question about the potential replacement of a GE, due to time
> limitations.
>
>
>
> They have several installation issues for which they are in contact with
> the GE owner. However, it is taking too long and they are afraid that they
> will be thrown out of schedule.
>
>
>
> An administrative question: Can they change their architecture, replace
> the GE with another?
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Aggelos Groumas
> Bu mesaj ve ekleri gönderilen kişiye özeldir ve gizli bilgiler
> içerebilir. Eğer mesajın gönderilmek istendiği kişi değilseniz lütfen
> kopyalamayınız, başkalarına göndermeyiniz ve göndericiyi bilgilendiriniz.
> Internet üzerinden gönderilen mesajların güvenli ve hatasız olduğunun
> garantisi olmadığından Atos grubu mesajın içeriğinden sorumlu tutulamaz.
> Göndericinin bilgisayarı anti-virüs sistemleri tarafından taranmaktadır,
> ancak yine de mesajın virüs içermediği garanti edilemez ve gönderici,
> meydana gelebilecek zararlardan sorumlu tutulamaz.
>
> This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended
> solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this
> e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As
> its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos group liability
> cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavors
> to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that
> this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages
> resulting from any virus transmitted.
>

–
Groumas Aggelos
Research Assistant
SCAN Lab ~ http://scan.di.uoa.gr/

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Hi Aggelos,

My apologies, I just realized I missed your follow up message below, and mistook it for the original message.

Yes, administratively, it should be ok to replace the Wirecloud GE in this architecture. The FIWARE usage by the project will be much less in that case, but that may still be ok given they are also using Wstore and Repository GEs. I would still encourage them to check the FIWARE catalogue in case any other GE could be useful to them.

Kind regards,

ilknur

From: gkraggel@di.uoa.gr gkraggel@di.uoa.gr
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:31 PM
To: Chulani, Ilknur
Cc: fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org
Subject: Re: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Architectural question

Hello again,

i had a response.

---------------------

Hello Aggelos,

my name is Ana and I'm a member of Agrishares team. Regarding our architecture changes, currently it's as in the image below.
[Inline image 1]
What we realized is that our end-users are in great majority non-experts regarding IT and that giving them liberty to edit their front-end is not really advantage but may bring confusion and won't help our easy-to-use goal. For this reason, we would like to remove Application Mashup GE and develop static and predefined front-end. We would design a web site with our vision of what the end-user needs and then adjust it according to feedback that we receive later in the project. We do realize that Application Mashup might be convenient for this adjustments but we fear that it might take too much time to deploy it and that the added value is not significant enough.

I would appreciate any comments or advice.

---------------------

BR,
Aggelos

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net<ilknur.chulani@atos.net>> wrote:
Dear Aggelos,

Administratively speaking this should be possible of course. But the important thing to check is whether the architecture would still be sound technically after removing the GE or replacing it.

Could you give some more details in order to understand the situation better? i.e. What is their architecture like, and the system envision? Which GE they are thinking of replacing? And with which GE, etc.?

Best regards,

ilknur

From: fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org<fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org> fiware-fractals-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org On Behalf Of Aggelos Groumas
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 6:02 PM
To: fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org<fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org>
Subject: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Architectural question

Dear Coachers,

i received a question about the potential replacement of a GE, due to time limitations.

They have several installation issues for which they are in contact with the GE owner. However, it is taking too long and they are afraid that they will be thrown out of schedule.

An administrative question: Can they change their architecture, replace the GE with another?

BR,
Aggelos Groumas
Bu mesaj ve ekleri gönderilen kişiye özeldir ve gizli bilgiler içerebilir. Eğer mesajın gönderilmek istendiği kişi değilseniz lütfen kopyalamayınız, başkalarına göndermeyiniz ve göndericiyi bilgilendiriniz. Internet üzerinden gönderilen mesajların güvenli ve hatasız olduğunun garantisi olmadığından Atos grubu mesajın içeriğinden sorumlu tutulamaz. Göndericinin bilgisayarı anti-virüs sistemleri tarafından taranmaktadır, ancak yine de mesajın virüs içermediği garanti edilemez ve gönderici, meydana gelebilecek zararlardan sorumlu tutulamaz.

This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavors to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted.

–
Groumas Aggelos
Research Assistant
SCAN Lab ~ http://scan.di.uoa.gr/
Bu mesaj ve ekleri gönderilen kişiye özeldir ve gizli bilgiler içerebilir. Eğer mesajın gönderilmek istendiği kişi değilseniz lütfen kopyalamayınız, başkalarına göndermeyiniz ve göndericiyi bilgilendiriniz. Internet üzerinden gönderilen mesajların güvenli ve hatasız olduğunun garantisi olmadığından Atos grubu mesajın içeriğinden sorumlu tutulamaz. Göndericinin bilgisayarı anti-virüs sistemleri tarafından taranmaktadır, ancak yine de mesajın virüs içermediği garanti edilemez ve gönderici, meydana gelebilecek zararlardan sorumlu tutulamaz.

This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavors to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted.

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Closing the ticket as it was already answered last week.