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  1. Help-Coaches-Desk
  2. HELC-690

FIWARE.Request.Coach.FRACTALS.Fractals accelerator.question.Marketplace

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    • Type: extRequest
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Major
    • Resolution: Done
    • Component/s: FRACTALS
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      Inquiry from the Fractals team by email ...

      As a summary, they are evaluating some proposals from SMEs, and they need the opinion of GE owners about whether it is feasible for the SME to implement the marketplace functionality they are proposing in the given time frame (6-9 M).

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        ichulani ilknur chulani created issue -
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        Description Inquiry from the Fractals team by email...

        From: Chulani, Ilknur
        Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:17 AM
        To: Perea Escribano, Carmen; jsoriano@fi.upm.es
        Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com)
        Subject: RE: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Javier,

        Would you or anybody from your team be able to assist the Fractals team (an accelerator project) for their inquiry below? I will create a JIRA ticket in case it would help.

        In summary, they are evaluating some proposals from SMEs, and they need your opinion as GE owners about whether you think it is feasible for the SME to implement the marketplace functionality they are proposing in the given time frame (6-9 M).

        Thanks very much in advance for your help,

        Best regards,

        ilknur

        From: Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 11:00 AM
        To: jsoriano@fi.upm.es
        Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Chulani, Ilknur; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com)
        Subject: FW: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Javier,
        Last week, we asked you about two FRACTALS proposals using the Martketplace G.E. , we have some doubts if they are going to use correctly the marketplace G.E. , please could you review the document attached and check if the proposed used is correct?
        Thank you very much for your support.
        Best regards,
        Carmen

        From: Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:23 PM
        To: 'jsoriano@fi.upm.es'
        Cc: 'fdelavega@fi.upm.es'; 'amagan@conwet.com'; Chulani, Ilknur; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero Negrin, Javier
        Subject: FW: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Javier,
        Thank you very much for your answer, we have received more information from the proposers, and we would like to check it with you,
        Please could you review this short information about 2 proposals, find it attached.
        We are worried because we think that they do not have time and resources enough to do the needed changes in the marketplace , taking into account that the duration of the proposals is around 6M-9M, and that they will start in June.

        Best regards,
        Carmen

        From: Chulani, Ilknur
        Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:21 PM
        To: FRACTALS coach (fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org); Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Subject: Re: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Carmen,

        The GE owners confirm that our assumption is correct, the current apps & services GEs do not focus on the sale of actual products, but only on the digital services.

        Best regards,

        ilknur

        From: Javier Soriano [mailto:jsoriano@fi.upm.es]
        Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:07 PM
        To: Chulani, Ilknur
        Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com
        Subject: Re: Question on the Use of Wstore and Marketplace

        Hi Ilknur,

        Sorry for the delay in our response. We are very busy this days with the final review of fiware, etc. :-(

        I think that we are not offering a solution for selling actual things but for selling digital assets. This is because we do not offer features such as tracking of delivery, returns, refunds, etc. Nevertheless I think that it could great if that project decided to use the store and evolve it by adding such features. In that case they could count on us to support them (making changes in the architecture to facilitate the integration of such features, making required developments like support for additional states and events, giving advise and training on the current architecture of the Store and its plug-in, etc.) but we cannot develop them by ourselves at this moment.

        Best regards,
        Javier

        2015-04-17 14:17 GMT+02:00 Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net>:
        Dear Aitor and Francisco,
        We received the question below from one of the accelerator projects we are coaching, could you confirm if our assumption is correct? In other words, are the Marketplace or Store GEs only for selling software services, (i.e. not for selling actual things like farmer services or products).
        Can you kindly clarify?
        Thanks & best regards,
        ilknur
        From: Chulani, Ilknur
        Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:44 PM
        To: 'Javier Soriano'
        Subject: Question on the Use of Marketplace
        Dear Javier,
        I received the following question from one of the accelerator projects, I am assuming the marketplace GE is only for selling software services, can you kindly clarify?
        Best regards,
        ilknur
        From: fiware-fractals-coaching-atos-bounces@lists.atosresearch.eu [mailto:fiware-fractals-coaching-atos-bounces@lists.atosresearch.eu] On Behalf Of Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 6:34 PM
        To: FRACTALS coach (fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org)
        Subject: [Fiware-fractals-coaching-atos] [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace
         
        Dear coachers,
         
        Some proposers are proposing the use of the marketplace G.E to sell services, but not software services, we do not see if it is possible and if someone has tried before.
        E.g.They want to sell farmer product, do you know any similar implementation?
        Best regards,
         
        Carmen
        Inquiry from the Fractals team by email ...

        As a summary, they are evaluating some proposals from SMEs, and they need your opinion as GE owners about whether you think it is feasible for the SME to implement the marketplace functionality they are proposing in the given time frame (6-9 M).


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        ichulani ilknur chulani added a comment - - edited

        including the referred email thread here:

        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        From: Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:51 AM
        To: Chulani, Ilknur; jsoriano@fi.upm.es
        Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com)
        Subject: RE: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Javier,
        Sorry for bothering you , but we need your advice about the marketplace use , due to the fact that we have to provide an answer to FRACTALS participants, we would like to finish the evaluation process as soon as possible and we need your advice before taking a decision.
        Best regards,
        Carmen
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        From: Chulani, Ilknur
        Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:17 AM
        To: Perea Escribano, Carmen; jsoriano@fi.upm.es
        Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com)
        Subject: RE: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Javier,

        Would you or anybody from your team be able to assist the Fractals team (an accelerator project) for their inquiry below? I will create a JIRA ticket in case it would help.

        In summary, they are evaluating some proposals from SMEs, and they need your opinion as GE owners about whether you think it is feasible for the SME to implement the marketplace functionality they are proposing in the given time frame (6-9 M).

        Thanks very much in advance for your help,

        Best regards,

        ilknur

        From: Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 11:00 AM
        To: jsoriano@fi.upm.es
        Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Chulani, Ilknur; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com)
        Subject: FW: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Javier,
        Last week, we asked you about two FRACTALS proposals using the Martketplace G.E. , we have some doubts if they are going to use correctly the marketplace G.E. , please could you review the document attached and check if the proposed used is correct?
        Thank you very much for your support.
        Best regards,
        Carmen

        From: Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:23 PM
        To: 'jsoriano@fi.upm.es'
        Cc: 'fdelavega@fi.upm.es'; 'amagan@conwet.com'; Chulani, Ilknur; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero Negrin, Javier
        Subject: FW: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Javier,
        Thank you very much for your answer, we have received more information from the proposers, and we would like to check it with you,
        Please could you review this short information about 2 proposals, find it attached.
        We are worried because we think that they do not have time and resources enough to do the needed changes in the marketplace , taking into account that the duration of the proposals is around 6M-9M, and that they will start in June.

        Best regards,
        Carmen

        From: Chulani, Ilknur
        Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:21 PM
        To: FRACTALS coach (fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org); Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Subject: Re: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear Carmen,

        The GE owners confirm that our assumption is correct, the current apps & services GEs do not focus on the sale of actual products, but only on the digital services.

        Best regards,

        ilknur

        From: Javier Soriano jsoriano@fi.upm.es
        Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:07 PM
        To: Chulani, Ilknur
        Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com
        Subject: Re: Question on the Use of Wstore and Marketplace

        Hi Ilknur,

        Sorry for the delay in our response. We are very busy this days with the final review of fiware, etc.

        I think that we are not offering a solution for selling actual things but for selling digital assets. This is because we do not offer features such as tracking of delivery, returns, refunds, etc. Nevertheless I think that it could great if that project decided to use the store and evolve it by adding such features. In that case they could count on us to support them (making changes in the architecture to facilitate the integration of such features, making required developments like support for additional states and events, giving advise and training on the current architecture of the Store and its plug-in, etc.) but we cannot develop them by ourselves at this moment.

        Best regards,
        Javier

        2015-04-17 14:17 GMT+02:00 Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net>:
        Dear Aitor and Francisco,
        We received the question below from one of the accelerator projects we are coaching, could you confirm if our assumption is correct? In other words, are the Marketplace or Store GEs only for selling software services, (i.e. not for selling actual things like farmer services or products).
        Can you kindly clarify?
        Thanks & best regards,
        ilknur
        From: Chulani, Ilknur
        Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:44 PM
        To: 'Javier Soriano'
        Subject: Question on the Use of Marketplace
        Dear Javier,
        I received the following question from one of the accelerator projects, I am assuming the marketplace GE is only for selling software services, can you kindly clarify?
        Best regards,
        ilknur
        From: fiware-fractals-coaching-atos-bounces@lists.atosresearch.eu fiware-fractals-coaching-atos-bounces@lists.atosresearch.eu On Behalf Of Perea Escribano, Carmen
        Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 6:34 PM
        To: FRACTALS coach (fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org)
        Subject: [Fiware-fractals-coaching-atos] [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace

        Dear coachers,

        Some proposers are proposing the use of the marketplace G.E to sell services, but not software services, we do not see if it is possible and if someone has tried before.
        E.g.They want to sell farmer product, do you know any similar implementation?
        Best regards,

        Carmen

        Show
        ichulani ilknur chulani added a comment - - edited including the referred email thread here: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Perea Escribano, Carmen Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:51 AM To: Chulani, Ilknur; jsoriano@fi.upm.es Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com) Subject: RE: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace Dear Javier, Sorry for bothering you , but we need your advice about the marketplace use , due to the fact that we have to provide an answer to FRACTALS participants, we would like to finish the evaluation process as soon as possible and we need your advice before taking a decision. Best regards, Carmen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chulani, Ilknur Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:17 AM To: Perea Escribano, Carmen; jsoriano@fi.upm.es Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com) Subject: RE: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace Dear Javier, Would you or anybody from your team be able to assist the Fractals team (an accelerator project) for their inquiry below? I will create a JIRA ticket in case it would help. In summary, they are evaluating some proposals from SMEs, and they need your opinion as GE owners about whether you think it is feasible for the SME to implement the marketplace functionality they are proposing in the given time frame (6-9 M). Thanks very much in advance for your help, Best regards, ilknur From: Perea Escribano, Carmen Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 11:00 AM To: jsoriano@fi.upm.es Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com; Chulani, Ilknur; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero, Javier; Grigoris Chatzikostas (gchatzikostas@gmail.com) Subject: FW: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace Dear Javier, Last week, we asked you about two FRACTALS proposals using the Martketplace G.E. , we have some doubts if they are going to use correctly the marketplace G.E. , please could you review the document attached and check if the proposed used is correct? Thank you very much for your support. Best regards, Carmen From: Perea Escribano, Carmen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:23 PM To: 'jsoriano@fi.upm.es' Cc: 'fdelavega@fi.upm.es'; 'amagan@conwet.com'; Chulani, Ilknur; Kruize, Jan Willem ; Vasileios Sarris ; Romero Negrin, Javier Subject: FW: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace Dear Javier, Thank you very much for your answer, we have received more information from the proposers, and we would like to check it with you, Please could you review this short information about 2 proposals, find it attached. We are worried because we think that they do not have time and resources enough to do the needed changes in the marketplace , taking into account that the duration of the proposals is around 6M-9M, and that they will start in June. Best regards, Carmen From: Chulani, Ilknur Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:21 PM To: FRACTALS coach (fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org); Perea Escribano, Carmen Subject: Re: [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace Dear Carmen, The GE owners confirm that our assumption is correct, the current apps & services GEs do not focus on the sale of actual products, but only on the digital services. Best regards, ilknur From: Javier Soriano jsoriano@fi.upm.es Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:07 PM To: Chulani, Ilknur Cc: fdelavega@fi.upm.es; amagan@conwet.com Subject: Re: Question on the Use of Wstore and Marketplace Hi Ilknur, Sorry for the delay in our response. We are very busy this days with the final review of fiware, etc. I think that we are not offering a solution for selling actual things but for selling digital assets. This is because we do not offer features such as tracking of delivery, returns, refunds, etc. Nevertheless I think that it could great if that project decided to use the store and evolve it by adding such features. In that case they could count on us to support them (making changes in the architecture to facilitate the integration of such features, making required developments like support for additional states and events, giving advise and training on the current architecture of the Store and its plug-in, etc.) but we cannot develop them by ourselves at this moment. Best regards, Javier 2015-04-17 14:17 GMT+02:00 Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net>: Dear Aitor and Francisco, We received the question below from one of the accelerator projects we are coaching, could you confirm if our assumption is correct? In other words, are the Marketplace or Store GEs only for selling software services, (i.e. not for selling actual things like farmer services or products). Can you kindly clarify? Thanks & best regards, ilknur From: Chulani, Ilknur Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 3:44 PM To: 'Javier Soriano' Subject: Question on the Use of Marketplace Dear Javier, I received the following question from one of the accelerator projects, I am assuming the marketplace GE is only for selling software services, can you kindly clarify? Best regards, ilknur From: fiware-fractals-coaching-atos-bounces@lists.atosresearch.eu fiware-fractals-coaching-atos-bounces@lists.atosresearch.eu On Behalf Of Perea Escribano, Carmen Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 6:34 PM To: FRACTALS coach (fiware-fractals-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org) Subject: [Fiware-fractals-coaching-atos] [Fiware-fractals-coaching] Use of Marketplace Dear coachers, Some proposers are proposing the use of the marketplace G.E to sell services, but not software services, we do not see if it is possible and if someone has tried before. E.g.They want to sell farmer product, do you know any similar implementation? Best regards, Carmen
        ichulani ilknur chulani made changes -
        Description Inquiry from the Fractals team by email ...

        As a summary, they are evaluating some proposals from SMEs, and they need your opinion as GE owners about whether you think it is feasible for the SME to implement the marketplace functionality they are proposing in the given time frame (6-9 M).


        Inquiry from the Fractals team by email ...

        As a summary, they are evaluating some proposals from SMEs, and they need the opinion of GE owners about whether it is feasible for the SME to implement the marketplace functionality they are proposing in the given time frame (6-9 M).


        ichulani ilknur chulani made changes -
        Assignee ilknur chulani [ ilknur.chulani ] Aitor Magán [ amagan ]
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        ichulani ilknur chulani added a comment -

        Hi Aitor,

        Would you be able to take a look at this inquiry from Fractals project? It is an accelerator project, and they need quick help with the Wstore GE when evaluating a proposal.

        Thanks in advance,

        ilknur

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        ichulani ilknur chulani added a comment - Hi Aitor, Would you be able to take a look at this inquiry from Fractals project? It is an accelerator project, and they need quick help with the Wstore GE when evaluating a proposal. Thanks in advance, ilknur
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        ichulani ilknur chulani added a comment -

        Detailed info is in the email thread I pasted and in the attachment. Thanks again..

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        ichulani ilknur chulani added a comment - Detailed info is in the email thread I pasted and in the attachment. Thanks again..
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        amagan Aitor Magán added a comment -

        We've answered you by mail. This is the response. You can close this ticket if you want or ask us for more feedback.

        Hi All!

        Sorry for the delay but we're very very busy and we're evaluating your proposal with care. However, we don't have much more to say since the conclussions are exactly the same than Javier gave you some days ago.

        Proposal A:
        We think that you should consider that Store GE allows you to have more than one provider in the same instance, so you are not required to have one store for each provider. For this reason, we consider that the best solution for you is to use one Store where you concentrate all the users (providers and consumers) and to avoid using the Marketplace GE. Store GERI can give renters all the published offerings by the different providers even using free text search. Marketplace is focused on concentrating the offerings from different Stores when you have them, but we think that this is not needed for this proposal. However, you can go on with your initial idea of having one store for provider and concentrate their providers in the Marketplace but you must also consider that the Store is much more mature than the Marketplace.

        Proposal E:
        Relating this propsal, I cannot tell you more than Javier told you in the last mail: "We think that we are not offering a solution for selling actual things but for selling digital assets. This is because we do not offer features such as tracking of delivery, returns, refunds, etc. Nevertheless we think that it could great if that project decided to use the store and evolve it by adding such features.". However this is not in our roadmap but we can give you support if you request for it.

        Best Regards

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        amagan Aitor Magán added a comment - We've answered you by mail. This is the response. You can close this ticket if you want or ask us for more feedback. Hi All! Sorry for the delay but we're very very busy and we're evaluating your proposal with care. However, we don't have much more to say since the conclussions are exactly the same than Javier gave you some days ago. Proposal A : We think that you should consider that Store GE allows you to have more than one provider in the same instance, so you are not required to have one store for each provider. For this reason, we consider that the best solution for you is to use one Store where you concentrate all the users (providers and consumers) and to avoid using the Marketplace GE. Store GERI can give renters all the published offerings by the different providers even using free text search. Marketplace is focused on concentrating the offerings from different Stores when you have them, but we think that this is not needed for this proposal. However, you can go on with your initial idea of having one store for provider and concentrate their providers in the Marketplace but you must also consider that the Store is much more mature than the Marketplace. Proposal E : Relating this propsal, I cannot tell you more than Javier told you in the last mail: "We think that we are not offering a solution for selling actual things but for selling digital assets. This is because we do not offer features such as tracking of delivery, returns, refunds, etc. Nevertheless we think that it could great if that project decided to use the store and evolve it by adding such features.". However this is not in our roadmap but we can give you support if you request for it. Best Regards
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        Summary Evaluating use of Marketplace in a proposal FIWARE.Request.Coach.FRACTALS.Fractals accelerator.question.Marketplace
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        Issue Type eRequest [ 10101 ] extRequest [ 10104 ]
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