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FIWARE.Request.Coach.SOUL-FI.Fwd: Re: recommended fiware enablers

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      Dear Sergio,
      There is a mailjng list fromnthe guys from the fiware foundation that i
      think someone from fi-core should be present... see below the discussion.

      Nuno

      Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and tpyos.
      ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------
      De: <m.ross@digital-worx.de>
      Data: 05/05/2015 12:18
      Assunto: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers
      Para: <fiware-general@lists.dyne.org>
      Cc:

      Adding to Piotr: we also had Object Storage in the stack. And we decided
      not to use Object Storage due problems and missing functions in the FIWARE
      LAB. Which at all leads into the conseqence not to use FIWARE LAB at all.

      Mirko

      Am 2015-05-05 09:42, schrieb Piotr Pawałowski:

      > Hi,
      >
      > we are using Kurento and Object Storage. Kurento looks pretty well,
      > but Object Storage in the FIWARE Lab is not working very stable.
      >
      > BR,
      >
      > Piotr
      >
      >
      >
      > W dniu 2015-05-04 o 15:05, Tobias Wunner pisze:
      >
      >> Hi, we are looking into integrating Fiware enablers. Are there any
      >> enablers with which you can specifically recommend and run stable?
      >>
      >> Cheers,
      >>
      >> Tobias
      >>
      >>
      >> _______________________________________________
      >> Fiware-general mailing list
      >> Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org
      >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general
      >>
      >> _______________________________________________
      > Fiware-general mailing list
      > Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org
      > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general
      >

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        fw.ext.user FW External User added a comment -

        Dear Nuno,
        Please find attach the result of this evaluation. Let me point that out that from my (FIWARE) point of view, there were in general more interesting proposals in the first round. Regarding this round, these are the main criteria:

        Ges (0-2) Number of relevant GEs used and how they are intended to be used
        Arch (0-1) How important are FIWARE GEs in the solution architecture.
        Cloud (0-1) If the cloud is used.
        Idea (+-1) If the idea is a good one, with good potential (even if it’s not well explained in the proposal).

        FIWARE Grade (the sum of above).

        From my point of view, those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be qualified to go on, even in round A. Whenever Idea == 1, a chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit, just evaluate how to proceed depending on the other factors.
        Of course, in a round B a FIWARE Grade should be >=2.5 to go on, but this is not the case.

        I have provided comments on all the proposals. If you need additional details in any of them, especially if they are going to be rejected, just let me know.

        Best Regards,

        Sergio.

        De: fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org En nombre de Nuno Varandas (gmail)
        Enviado el: 06 May 2015 20:39
        Para: fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org
        Asunto: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers

        Dear Sergio,
        There is a mailjng list fromnthe guys from the fiware foundation that i think someone from fi-core should be present... see below the discussion.

        Nuno

        Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and tpyos.
        ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------
        De: <m.ross@digital-worx.de<m.ross@digital-worx.de>>
        Data: 05/05/2015 12:18
        Assunto: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers
        Para: <fiware-general@lists.dyne.org<fiware-general@lists.dyne.org>>
        Cc:

        Adding to Piotr: we also had Object Storage in the stack. And we decided not to use Object Storage due problems and missing functions in the FIWARE LAB. Which at all leads into the conseqence not to use FIWARE LAB at all.

        Mirko

        Am 2015-05-05 09:42, schrieb Piotr Pawałowski:
        Hi,

        we are using Kurento and Object Storage. Kurento looks pretty well,
        but Object Storage in the FIWARE Lab is not working very stable.

        BR,

        Piotr

        W dniu 2015-05-04 o 15:05, Tobias Wunner pisze:
        Hi, we are looking into integrating Fiware enablers. Are there any
        enablers with which you can specifically recommend and run stable?

        Cheers,

        Tobias

        _______________________________________________
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        Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org<Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org>
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        Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org<Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org>
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        Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu destinatário, pode conter informação privilegiada ou confidencial e é para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se não é vossa senhoria o destinatário indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, utilização, divulgação e/ou cópia sem autorização pode estar proibida em virtude da legislação vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destruição

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        fw.ext.user FW External User added a comment - Dear Nuno, Please find attach the result of this evaluation. Let me point that out that from my (FIWARE) point of view, there were in general more interesting proposals in the first round. Regarding this round, these are the main criteria: Ges (0-2) Number of relevant GEs used and how they are intended to be used Arch (0-1) How important are FIWARE GEs in the solution architecture. Cloud (0-1) If the cloud is used. Idea (+-1) If the idea is a good one, with good potential (even if it’s not well explained in the proposal). FIWARE Grade (the sum of above). From my point of view, those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be qualified to go on, even in round A. Whenever Idea == 1, a chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit, just evaluate how to proceed depending on the other factors. Of course, in a round B a FIWARE Grade should be >=2.5 to go on, but this is not the case. I have provided comments on all the proposals. If you need additional details in any of them, especially if they are going to be rejected, just let me know. Best Regards, Sergio. De: fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org En nombre de Nuno Varandas (gmail) Enviado el: 06 May 2015 20:39 Para: fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org Asunto: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers Dear Sergio, There is a mailjng list fromnthe guys from the fiware foundation that i think someone from fi-core should be present... see below the discussion. Nuno Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and tpyos. ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ---------- De: <m.ross@digital-worx.de< m.ross@digital-worx.de >> Data: 05/05/2015 12:18 Assunto: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers Para: <fiware-general@lists.dyne.org< fiware-general@lists.dyne.org >> Cc: Adding to Piotr: we also had Object Storage in the stack. And we decided not to use Object Storage due problems and missing functions in the FIWARE LAB. Which at all leads into the conseqence not to use FIWARE LAB at all. Mirko Am 2015-05-05 09:42, schrieb Piotr Pawałowski: Hi, we are using Kurento and Object Storage. Kurento looks pretty well, but Object Storage in the FIWARE Lab is not working very stable. BR, Piotr W dniu 2015-05-04 o 15:05, Tobias Wunner pisze: Hi, we are looking into integrating Fiware enablers. Are there any enablers with which you can specifically recommend and run stable? Cheers, Tobias _______________________________________________ Fiware-general mailing list Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org< Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general _______________________________________________ Fiware-general mailing list Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org< Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general _______________________________________________ Fiware-general mailing list Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org< Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general ________________________________ Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilización, divulgación y/o copia sin autorización puede estar prohibida en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su destrucción. The information contained in this transmission is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error and then delete it. Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu destinatário, pode conter informação privilegiada ou confidencial e é para uso exclusivo da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se não é vossa senhoria o destinatário indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, utilização, divulgação e/ou cópia sem autorização pode estar proibida em virtude da legislação vigente. Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destruição _______________________________________________ Fiware-soulfi-coaching mailing list Fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-soulfi-coaching
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        fw.ext.user FW External User added a comment -

        Hi Sergio,

        Based on you comments and scoring we will end up with less companies that
        are required... we need 51 companies! So the best criteria I would use is "a
        chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit". Find
        enclose the potential selection of these 51 companies.

        Even-though we will put out 12 companies that had a score that could be
        easily financed (for instance the "Rokubun" company, which was the one with
        better scoring from external evaluators). For this reason and for these
        companies (OUT by FIWARE) I kindly ask you for additional comments.
        While doing so please put yourself in their shoes, how they would be
        convinced the reason why they were desclassified. For instance for
        "Rokubun" you wrote "Only 1 GE mentioned. Although its intended usage seems
        core in the architecture, the way it is used seems to be weird and atypical
        (forced)." If I was that company I would complain a lot!

        I thank you in advance for your support.
        best regards,

        2015-05-12 1:17 GMT+01:00 SERGIO GARCIA GOMEZ <
        sergio.garciagomez@telefonica.com>:

        > Dear Nuno,
        >
        > Please find attach the result of this evaluation. Let me point that out
        > that from my (FIWARE) point of view, there were in general more interesting
        > proposals in the first round. Regarding this round, these are the main
        > criteria:
        >
        >
        >
        > Ges (0-2) Number of relevant GEs used and how they are intended to be used
        >
        > Arch (0-1) How important are FIWARE GEs in the solution architecture.
        >
        > Cloud (0-1) If the cloud is used.
        >
        > Idea (+-1) If the idea is a good one, with good potential (even if it’s
        > not well explained in the proposal).
        >
        >
        >
        > FIWARE Grade (the sum of above).
        >
        >
        >
        > From my point of view, those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be
        > qualified to go on, even in round A. Whenever Idea == 1, a chance should
        > be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit, just evaluate how to
        > proceed depending on the other factors.
        >
        > Of course, in a round B a FIWARE Grade should be >=2.5 to go on, but this
        > is not the case.
        >
        >
        >
        > I have provided comments on all the proposals. If you need additional
        > details in any of them, especially if they are going to be rejected, just
        > let me know.
        >
        >
        >
        > Best Regards,
        >
        >
        >
        > Sergio.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > De: fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org [mailto:
        > fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org] *En nombre de *Nuno
        > Varandas (gmail)
        > Enviado el: 06 May 2015 20:39
        > Para: fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org
        > Asunto: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended
        > fiware enablers
        >
        >
        >
        > Dear Sergio,
        > There is a mailjng list fromnthe guys from the fiware foundation that i
        > think someone from fi-core should be present... see below the discussion.
        >
        > Nuno
        >
        > Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and tpyos.
        >
        > ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------
        > De: <m.ross@digital-worx.de>
        > Data: 05/05/2015 12:18
        > Assunto: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers
        > Para: <fiware-general@lists.dyne.org>
        > Cc:
        >
        > Adding to Piotr: we also had Object Storage in the stack. And we decided
        > not to use Object Storage due problems and missing functions in the FIWARE
        > LAB. Which at all leads into the conseqence not to use FIWARE LAB at all.
        >
        > Mirko
        >
        >
        > Am 2015-05-05 09:42, schrieb Piotr Pawałowski:
        >
        > Hi,
        >
        > we are using Kurento and Object Storage. Kurento looks pretty well,
        > but Object Storage in the FIWARE Lab is not working very stable.
        >
        > BR,
        >
        > Piotr
        >
        >
        >
        > W dniu 2015-05-04 o 15:05, Tobias Wunner pisze:
        >
        > Hi, we are looking into integrating Fiware enablers. Are there any
        > enablers with which you can specifically recommend and run stable?
        >
        > Cheers,
        >
        > Tobias
        >
        >
        > _______________________________________________
        > Fiware-general mailing list
        > Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org
        > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general
        >
        > _______________________________________________
        > Fiware-general mailing list
        > Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org
        > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general
        >
        >
        > _______________________________________________
        > Fiware-general mailing list
        > Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org
        > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general
        >
        > ------------------------------
        >
        > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario,
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        > la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos
        > que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su
        > destrucción.
        >
        > The information contained in this transmission is privileged and
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        > entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended
        > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or
        > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received
        > this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately reply to the
        > sender that you have received this communication in error and then delete
        > it.
        >
        > Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu destinatário,
        > pode conter informação privilegiada ou confidencial e é para uso exclusivo
        > da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se não é vossa senhoria o destinatário
        > indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, utilização, divulgação e/ou
        > cópia sem autorização pode estar proibida em virtude da legislação vigente.
        > Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique
        > imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destruição
        >


        Nuno Varandas

        Mobile: +351 93 528 2318

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        fw.ext.user FW External User added a comment - Hi Sergio, Based on you comments and scoring we will end up with less companies that are required... we need 51 companies! So the best criteria I would use is "a chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit". Find enclose the potential selection of these 51 companies. Even-though we will put out 12 companies that had a score that could be easily financed (for instance the "Rokubun" company, which was the one with better scoring from external evaluators). For this reason and for these companies (OUT by FIWARE) I kindly ask you for additional comments. While doing so please put yourself in their shoes, how they would be convinced the reason why they were desclassified. For instance for "Rokubun" you wrote "Only 1 GE mentioned. Although its intended usage seems core in the architecture, the way it is used seems to be weird and atypical (forced)." If I was that company I would complain a lot! I thank you in advance for your support. best regards, 2015-05-12 1:17 GMT+01:00 SERGIO GARCIA GOMEZ < sergio.garciagomez@telefonica.com>: > Dear Nuno, > > Please find attach the result of this evaluation. Let me point that out > that from my (FIWARE) point of view, there were in general more interesting > proposals in the first round. Regarding this round, these are the main > criteria: > > > > Ges (0-2) Number of relevant GEs used and how they are intended to be used > > Arch (0-1) How important are FIWARE GEs in the solution architecture. > > Cloud (0-1) If the cloud is used. > > Idea (+-1) If the idea is a good one, with good potential (even if it’s > not well explained in the proposal). > > > > FIWARE Grade (the sum of above). > > > > From my point of view, those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be > qualified to go on, even in round A. Whenever Idea == 1, a chance should > be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit, just evaluate how to > proceed depending on the other factors. > > Of course, in a round B a FIWARE Grade should be >=2.5 to go on, but this > is not the case. > > > > I have provided comments on all the proposals. If you need additional > details in any of them, especially if they are going to be rejected, just > let me know. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sergio. > > > > > > De: fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org [mailto: > fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org] *En nombre de *Nuno > Varandas (gmail) > Enviado el: 06 May 2015 20:39 > Para: fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org > Asunto: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended > fiware enablers > > > > Dear Sergio, > There is a mailjng list fromnthe guys from the fiware foundation that i > think someone from fi-core should be present... see below the discussion. > > Nuno > > Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and tpyos. > > ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ---------- > De: <m.ross@digital-worx.de> > Data: 05/05/2015 12:18 > Assunto: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers > Para: <fiware-general@lists.dyne.org> > Cc: > > Adding to Piotr: we also had Object Storage in the stack. And we decided > not to use Object Storage due problems and missing functions in the FIWARE > LAB. Which at all leads into the conseqence not to use FIWARE LAB at all. > > Mirko > > > Am 2015-05-05 09:42, schrieb Piotr Pawałowski: > > Hi, > > we are using Kurento and Object Storage. Kurento looks pretty well, > but Object Storage in the FIWARE Lab is not working very stable. > > BR, > > Piotr > > > > W dniu 2015-05-04 o 15:05, Tobias Wunner pisze: > > Hi, we are looking into integrating Fiware enablers. Are there any > enablers with which you can specifically recommend and run stable? > > Cheers, > > Tobias > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-general mailing list > Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-general mailing list > Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-general mailing list > Fiware-general@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fiware-general > > ------------------------------ > > Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, > puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso > exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. Si no es usted. el > destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la lectura, utilización, > divulgación y/o copia sin autorización puede estar prohibida en virtud de > la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos > que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su > destrucción. > > The information contained in this transmission is privileged and > confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or > entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately reply to the > sender that you have received this communication in error and then delete > it. > > Esta mensagem e seus anexos se dirigem exclusivamente ao seu destinatário, > pode conter informação privilegiada ou confidencial e é para uso exclusivo > da pessoa ou entidade de destino. Se não é vossa senhoria o destinatário > indicado, fica notificado de que a leitura, utilização, divulgação e/ou > cópia sem autorização pode estar proibida em virtude da legislação vigente. > Se recebeu esta mensagem por erro, rogamos-lhe que nos o comunique > imediatamente por esta mesma via e proceda a sua destruição > – Nuno Varandas Mobile: +351 93 528 2318 _______________________________________________ Fiware-soulfi-coaching mailing list Fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-soulfi-coaching
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        fw.ext.user FW External User added a comment -

        Dear Nuno,
        My apologies, maybe I didn’t explain very well the message:

        · “those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be qualified to go on” . These are just four:

        o Ridha Azaiz. No GE mentioned.

        o inReception. Only two GEs. POis is marginal in the architecture. Cosmos usage is not justified at all, there’s no evidence that this GE can be used. Of course, this is my interpretation from the provided text. (Note: I have detected that these two GEs are used as wildcards in many proposals). To be honest, this case is a bit in the limit, so we might reconsider it the rest of the proposal is outstanding.

        o Justplug. Very short description and non-justified list of GEs (most of them on cloud and security GEs). There’s no link between the project and FIWARE GEs usage.

        o PhotoSpotLand. No GE mentioned other than IDM.

        What I tried to say in my message is that for the rest, and especially for those with grade < 1.5, you should consider the rest of the criteria to decide a go/not-go. Let’s say that a proposal with FIWARE grade “1” could be accepted or not depending on how strong the business plan, team, etc. are.

        And regarding Rokobun, , I still think that from FIWARE point of view they only propose to use one GE, Orion, but for a one to one communication pattern, which is not the purpose of this GE. Anyway, taking into account your and my messages, I don’t think they’ll have problems to go on in round A, and I hope they’ll improve that in round B.

        I hope this clarifies the situation.

        Best Regards,

        Sergio.

        De: Nuno Varandas (gmail) nvarandas.nv@gmail.com
        Enviado el: 13 May 2015 12:43
        Para: SERGIO GARCIA GOMEZ; fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org
        CC: SOUL-FI Coordination
        Asunto: Re: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers

        Hi Sergio,

        Based on you comments and scoring we will end up with less companies that are required... we need 51 companies! So the best criteria I would use is "a chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit". Find enclose the potential selection of these 51 companies.

        Even-though we will put out 12 companies that had a score that could be easily financed (for instance the "Rokubun" company, which was the one with better scoring from external evaluators). For this reason and for these companies (OUT by FIWARE) I kindly ask you for additional comments.
        While doing so please put yourself in their shoes, how they would be convinced the reason why they were desclassified. For instance for "Rokubun" you wrote "Only 1 GE mentioned. Although its intended usage seems core in the architecture, the way it is used seems to be weird and atypical (forced)." If I was that company I would complain a lot!

        I thank you in advance for your support.
        best regards,

        2015-05-12 1:17 GMT+01:00 SERGIO GARCIA GOMEZ <sergio.garciagomez@telefonica.com<sergio.garciagomez@telefonica.com>>:
        Dear Nuno,
        Please find attach the result of this evaluation. Let me point that out that from my (FIWARE) point of view, there were in general more interesting proposals in the first round. Regarding this round, these are the main criteria:

        Ges (0-2) Number of relevant GEs used and how they are intended to be used
        Arch (0-1) How important are FIWARE GEs in the solution architecture.
        Cloud (0-1) If the cloud is used.
        Idea (+-1) If the idea is a good one, with good potential (even if it’s not well explained in the proposal).

        FIWARE Grade (the sum of above).

        From my point of view, those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be qualified to go on, even in round A. Whenever Idea == 1, a chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit, just evaluate how to proceed depending on the other factors.
        Of course, in a round B a FIWARE Grade should be >=2.5 to go on, but this is not the case.

        I have provided comments on all the proposals. If you need additional details in any of them, especially if they are going to be rejected, just let me know.

        Best Regards,

        Sergio.

        De: fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org<fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org> fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org> En nombre de Nuno Varandas (gmail)
        Enviado el: 06 May 2015 20:39
        Para: fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org<fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org>
        Asunto: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers

        Dear Sergio,
        There is a mailjng list fromnthe guys from the fiware foundation that i think someone from fi-core should be present... see below the discussion.

        Nuno

        Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and tpyos.
        ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------
        De: <m.ross@digital-worx.de<m.ross@digital-worx.de>>
        Data: 05/05/2015 12:18
        Assunto: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers
        Para: <fiware-general@lists.dyne.org<fiware-general@lists.dyne.org>>
        Cc:

        Adding to Piotr: we also had Object Storage in the stack. And we decided not to use Object Storage due problems and missing functions in the FIWARE LAB. Which at all leads into the conseqence not to use FIWARE LAB at all.

        Mirko

        Am 2015-05-05 09:42, schrieb Piotr Pawałowski:
        Hi,

        we are using Kurento and Object Storage. Kurento looks pretty well,
        but Object Storage in the FIWARE Lab is not working very stable.

        BR,

        Piotr

        W dniu 2015-05-04 o 15:05, Tobias Wunner pisze:
        Hi, we are looking into integrating Fiware enablers. Are there any
        enablers with which you can specifically recommend and run stable?

        Cheers,

        Tobias

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        fw.ext.user FW External User added a comment - Dear Nuno, My apologies, maybe I didn’t explain very well the message: · “those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be qualified to go on” . These are just four: o Ridha Azaiz. No GE mentioned. o inReception. Only two GEs. POis is marginal in the architecture. Cosmos usage is not justified at all, there’s no evidence that this GE can be used. Of course, this is my interpretation from the provided text. (Note: I have detected that these two GEs are used as wildcards in many proposals). To be honest, this case is a bit in the limit, so we might reconsider it the rest of the proposal is outstanding. o Justplug. Very short description and non-justified list of GEs (most of them on cloud and security GEs). There’s no link between the project and FIWARE GEs usage. o PhotoSpotLand. No GE mentioned other than IDM. What I tried to say in my message is that for the rest, and especially for those with grade < 1.5, you should consider the rest of the criteria to decide a go/not-go. Let’s say that a proposal with FIWARE grade “1” could be accepted or not depending on how strong the business plan, team, etc. are. And regarding Rokobun, , I still think that from FIWARE point of view they only propose to use one GE, Orion, but for a one to one communication pattern, which is not the purpose of this GE. Anyway, taking into account your and my messages, I don’t think they’ll have problems to go on in round A, and I hope they’ll improve that in round B. I hope this clarifies the situation. Best Regards, Sergio. De: Nuno Varandas (gmail) nvarandas.nv@gmail.com Enviado el: 13 May 2015 12:43 Para: SERGIO GARCIA GOMEZ; fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org CC: SOUL-FI Coordination Asunto: Re: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers Hi Sergio, Based on you comments and scoring we will end up with less companies that are required... we need 51 companies! So the best criteria I would use is "a chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit". Find enclose the potential selection of these 51 companies. Even-though we will put out 12 companies that had a score that could be easily financed (for instance the "Rokubun" company, which was the one with better scoring from external evaluators). For this reason and for these companies (OUT by FIWARE) I kindly ask you for additional comments. While doing so please put yourself in their shoes, how they would be convinced the reason why they were desclassified. For instance for "Rokubun" you wrote "Only 1 GE mentioned. Although its intended usage seems core in the architecture, the way it is used seems to be weird and atypical (forced)." If I was that company I would complain a lot! I thank you in advance for your support. best regards, 2015-05-12 1:17 GMT+01:00 SERGIO GARCIA GOMEZ <sergio.garciagomez@telefonica.com< sergio.garciagomez@telefonica.com >>: Dear Nuno, Please find attach the result of this evaluation. Let me point that out that from my (FIWARE) point of view, there were in general more interesting proposals in the first round. Regarding this round, these are the main criteria: Ges (0-2) Number of relevant GEs used and how they are intended to be used Arch (0-1) How important are FIWARE GEs in the solution architecture. Cloud (0-1) If the cloud is used. Idea (+-1) If the idea is a good one, with good potential (even if it’s not well explained in the proposal). FIWARE Grade (the sum of above). From my point of view, those with “GEs < 1 and Idea < 1” should not be qualified to go on, even in round A. Whenever Idea == 1, a chance should be given. 1.5 total FIWARE grade should be the limit, just evaluate how to proceed depending on the other factors. Of course, in a round B a FIWARE Grade should be >=2.5 to go on, but this is not the case. I have provided comments on all the proposals. If you need additional details in any of them, especially if they are going to be rejected, just let me know. Best Regards, Sergio. De: fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org< fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org > fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org<mailto:fiware-soulfi-coaching-bounces@lists.fi-ware.org> En nombre de Nuno Varandas (gmail) Enviado el: 06 May 2015 20:39 Para: fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org< fiware-soulfi-coaching@lists.fi-ware.org > Asunto: [Fiware-soulfi-coaching] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers Dear Sergio, There is a mailjng list fromnthe guys from the fiware foundation that i think someone from fi-core should be present... see below the discussion. Nuno Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and tpyos. ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ---------- De: <m.ross@digital-worx.de< m.ross@digital-worx.de >> Data: 05/05/2015 12:18 Assunto: Re: [Fiware-general] recommended fiware enablers Para: <fiware-general@lists.dyne.org< fiware-general@lists.dyne.org >> Cc: Adding to Piotr: we also had Object Storage in the stack. And we decided not to use Object Storage due problems and missing functions in the FIWARE LAB. Which at all leads into the conseqence not to use FIWARE LAB at all. Mirko Am 2015-05-05 09:42, schrieb Piotr Pawałowski: Hi, we are using Kurento and Object Storage. Kurento looks pretty well, but Object Storage in the FIWARE Lab is not working very stable. BR, Piotr W dniu 2015-05-04 o 15:05, Tobias Wunner pisze: Hi, we are looking into integrating Fiware enablers. Are there any enablers with which you can specifically recommend and run stable? 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