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Status: Closed
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Resolution: Done
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Component/s: FI-ADOPT
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Dear Luca,
Apologies for the late reply, our office was closed due to bank holidays. Are you still interested in moving to the Spanish node? I see a new community account request in our ticketing system , but this request has Lannion as the preferred node. Lannion node will be undergoing some maintenance in the next few days, so I would humbly suggest proceeding with the Spain node as you originally intended, or Budapest2 as Theo has suggested.
One thing to keep in mind though, the node teams would only migrate your account and quota to the new node, but you would be responsible for moving your VMs, data, etc.
If you could confirm that is still ok with you, I can facilitate the migration request to Spanish node with the node teams. Please let me know.
Kind regards,
ilknur
From: Theodore Zahariadis zahariad@synelixis.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'Luca Viggiani'
Cc: 'Kate Pigden'; Chulani, Ilknur; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es
Subject: RE: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Luca,
I am very sorry for all these issues.
Yet, the GEs that you present here are among the most mature. Many projects are actively
using them. Moreover, the supervisors are assigned so that they may support the projects and
(as unfortunately, we also can't solve the problems) in most cases escalate the problems or
bring you in contact with the FI-Core/Fi-Lab team.
This is why also technical training and F2F meetings have been organized.
With respect to the FI_LAB, from what I know you have to register using the following link: https://account.lab.fiware.org/sign_up/.
After registration, using the same link you ask to become community member via the "Request Community Account upgrade button".
Via this procedure you also request the node, the CPUS cores, RAM, ..., the object storage capacity etc.
For example, I think that Budapest2 node is also quite stable.
Details are available at the following link http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FIWARE_Lab:_Upgrade_to_Community_Account
If you can't move from Trento node maybe a simpler solution could be to open a new account?
I am copying Ilknur and David so they may help further.
Best regards,
Theodore
From: Luca Viggiani luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Theodore Zahariadis
Cc: Kate Pigden
Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Theodore,
thank you very much for your email and for detailed program.
I take the opportunity to make you aware of the conversation I had with Kate (as he suggested) this morning about some technical difficulties we're having with the FI-Lab and the GEs.
We've have spent much more time than planned for the evaluation phase of the GE's. This was mainly due to:
· the low maturity of many GE's
· lack of documentation / accuracy
· availability of those GE in the FI-WARE Lab (especially in the node we've been assigned to - Trento)
Since this has become a critical aspect for the successful implementation of the project, we had to shrink down the number of GE's we plan to use to the core ones only, subsequently we'll have to implement the other features by our own.
Please also consider that we had an early warning by the technical tutor during a one-to-one coaching session around May: they strongly suggested to shrink down the number of GEs (they said not more than two) because "it won't be easy to learn ad integrate them" they said.
Here is the list of the GE we decided to keep as the core ones, although some of them are still in a critical status (green = ok; red = critical):
· Authentication (Identity Manager + Authentication PDP + PEP Proxy): this is working fine and currently integrated in our App
· Object Storage: this is the most critical one as it will be used to store all contents users will produce with our app. Currently the GE is not available at the FI-Lab node we've been assigned (Trento). We've exchanged several emails with them and in the end they informed that it might became available by the end of October (not officially stated). This is definitely too late for a successful completion of the project. Also it will not allow us to show something significant during the upcoming review by FI-ADOPT planned in October (as defined by the contract)
· WStore: We were unable to test is out until yesterday as the API documentation lacks of some important information needed for a successful integration within our APP. Fortunately we've been supported by the GE maintainer -Francisco de la Vega (fdelavega@fi.upm.es<fdelavega@fi.upm.es>) - who has been very helpful and put as in the position to at least start "playing" with the GE API
· App Generator: as far as we could see so far, a trial version of this Enabler is available only for those project assigned to the Spanish node of the FI-Labs, thus not to us. We need to try this Enabler out in order to check whether we can actually use it or find another way to implement a very important feature for our app: export lessons as stand-alone iOS or Android Apps.
Our concerns at the moment are about the actual implementation of the App within the end of the project but also (more urgent) to be in a position to show some progress during the upcoming review.
On the deliverable side (documentation) we're at a good point and we'll be definitely post it on the eai360 platform by the requested date.
On the product side, I don't feel we'll be able to show something really functioning by October due to the situation described above, other than some mock-ups.
In any case, we would like to ask if it possible to move our accounts to the Spanish node of the FI-Lab platform so that we'll be able to start using the two critical GEs ASAP. By some emails we exchanged with the Trento node (they are in Italian sorry), we got the feeling that not all nodes are at the same level / maturity. Also, we tried using some pre-built server images to overcome the issue with those GE and we discovered that one of them is password protected (Trento was not even aware of that, nor they know the password) and in some other cases they are buggy or not up-to-date. You can also imagine that this was a very time consuming and, in some cases, worthless activity.
Moving to the Spanish node would help us booting the development phase and try to recover the delay.
Thanks in advance for your support,
Kind regards,
http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802
Tel: +39 02 97280169 (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978
Skype: gorgonilla
Activity
| Field | Original Value | New Value |
|---|---|---|
| Component/s | FI-ADOPT [ 10361 ] | |
| Assignee | Ozdemir, Omer Faruk [ oozdemir ] |
Hi Luca,
I am not so familiar with the App Generator Specific Enabler, as I am more focused on the core Fiware platform generic enablers - so I am not sure on what nodes this SE is available. Have you already checked with the SE owner in this regard? I see their contact info at : http://lab.mediafi.org/discover-appgenerator.html.
We can proceed with the Lannion node in that case if you would like. An alternative is to download and install your own copy on the node you would like to work on, but if you would like to use the global instance already installed, let’s proceed with the Lannion node.
Please let me know either way. Kind regards,
ilknur
From: Luca Viggiani luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
To: Chulani, Ilknur
Cc: Theodore Zahariadis; Kate Pigden; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es; fiware-fiadopt-coaching@lists.fiware.org; Massimo Corna
Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Ilknur,
thanks for you reply.
We selected Lannion because as far as we could see, the "App Generator" Enabler seems to be available in trial mode to that node only.
But If it would be possible to try the App Generator even in Spanish o Budapest2, and those nodes are more stable an mature, to us is even better.
These are the GE's we're using:
- Identity Manager
- Authentication PDP
- PEP Proxy
- Object Storage
- WStore
- (AppGenerator)
As long as they are available and stable, any node would be ok to us.
No problem for moving data and VMs; we'll take care of it.
Finally, as you're moving our account, can you please keep the existing one (massimo.corna@krill.eu<massimo.corna@krill.eu>) and drop my new request (luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com<luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com>)? If it's not possible, no problem.
Thanks!
http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802
Tel: +39 02 97280169 (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978
Skype: gorgonilla
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2015-09-29 14:17 GMT+02:00 Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net<ilknur.chulani@atos.net>>:
Dear Luca,
Apologies for the late reply, our office was closed due to bank holidays. Are you still interested in moving to the Spanish node? I see a new community account request in our ticketing system , but this request has Lannion as the preferred node. Lannion node will be undergoing some maintenance in the next few days, so I would humbly suggest proceeding with the Spain node as you originally intended, or Budapest2 as Theo has suggested.
One thing to keep in mind though, the node teams would only migrate your account and quota to the new node, but you would be responsible for moving your VMs, data, etc.
If you could confirm that is still ok with you, I can facilitate the migration request to Spanish node with the node teams. Please let me know.
Kind regards,
ilknur
From: Theodore Zahariadis zahariad@synelixis.com<mailto:zahariad@synelixis.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'Luca Viggiani'
Cc: 'Kate Pigden'; Chulani, Ilknur; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es<djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es>
Subject: RE: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Luca,
I am very sorry for all these issues.
Yet, the GEs that you present here are among the most mature. Many projects are actively
using them. Moreover, the supervisors are assigned so that they may support the projects and
(as unfortunately, we also can't solve the problems) in most cases escalate the problems or
bring you in contact with the FI-Core/Fi-Lab team.
This is why also technical training and F2F meetings have been organized.
With respect to the FI_LAB, from what I know you have to register using the following link: https://account.lab.fiware.org/sign_up/.
After registration, using the same link you ask to become community member via the "Request Community Account upgrade button".
Via this procedure you also request the node, the CPUS cores, RAM, ..., the object storage capacity etc.
For example, I think that Budapest2 node is also quite stable.
Details are available at the following link http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FIWARE_Lab:_Upgrade_to_Community_Account
If you can't move from Trento node maybe a simpler solution could be to open a new account?
I am copying Ilknur and David so they may help further.
Best regards,
Theodore
From: Luca Viggiani luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Theodore Zahariadis
Cc: Kate Pigden
Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Theodore,
thank you very much for your email and for detailed program.
I take the opportunity to make you aware of the conversation I had with Kate (as he suggested) this morning about some technical difficulties we're having with the FI-Lab and the GEs.
We've have spent much more time than planned for the evaluation phase of the GE's. This was mainly due to:
• the low maturity of many GE's
• lack of documentation / accuracy
• availability of those GE in the FI-WARE Lab (especially in the node we've been assigned to - Trento)
Since this has become a critical aspect for the successful implementation of the project, we had to shrink down the number of GE's we plan to use to the core ones only, subsequently we'll have to implement the other features by our own.
Please also consider that we had an early warning by the technical tutor during a one-to-one coaching session around May: they strongly suggested to shrink down the number of GEs (they said not more than two) because "it won't be easy to learn ad integrate them" they said.
Here is the list of the GE we decided to keep as the core ones, although some of them are still in a critical status (green = ok; red = critical):
• Authentication (Identity Manager + Authentication PDP + PEP Proxy): this is working fine and currently integrated in our App
• Object Storage: this is the most critical one as it will be used to store all contents users will produce with our app. Currently the GE is not available at the FI-Lab node we've been assigned (Trento). We've exchanged several emails with them and in the end they informed that it might became available by the end of October (not officially stated). This is definitely too late for a successful completion of the project. Also it will not allow us to show something significant during the upcoming review by FI-ADOPT planned in October (as defined by the contract)
• WStore: We were unable to test is out until yesterday as the API documentation lacks of some important information needed for a successful integration within our APP. Fortunately we've been supported by the GE maintainer -Francisco de la Vega (fdelavega@fi.upm.es<fdelavega@fi.upm.es>) - who has been very helpful and put as in the position to at least start "playing" with the GE API
• App Generator: as far as we could see so far, a trial version of this Enabler is available only for those project assigned to the Spanish node of the FI-Labs, thus not to us. We need to try this Enabler out in order to check whether we can actually use it or find another way to implement a very important feature for our app: export lessons as stand-alone iOS or Android Apps.
Our concerns at the moment are about the actual implementation of the App within the end of the project but also (more urgent) to be in a position to show some progress during the upcoming review.
On the deliverable side (documentation) we're at a good point and we'll be definitely post it on the eai360 platform by the requested date.
On the product side, I don't feel we'll be able to show something really functioning by October due to the situation described above, other than some mock-ups.
In any case, we would like to ask if it possible to move our accounts to the Spanish node of the FI-Lab platform so that we'll be able to start using the two critical GEs ASAP. By some emails we exchanged with the Trento node (they are in Italian sorry), we got the feeling that not all nodes are at the same level / maturity. Also, we tried using some pre-built server images to overcome the issue with those GE and we discovered that one of them is password protected (Trento was not even aware of that, nor they know the password) and in some other cases they are buggy or not up-to-date. You can also imagine that this was a very time consuming and, in some cases, worthless activity.
Moving to the Spanish node would help us booting the development phase and try to recover the delay.
Thanks in advance for your support,
Kind regards,
http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802<tel:%2B39%20340%203627802>
Tel: +39 02 97280169<tel:%2B39%2002%2097280169> (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567<tel:%2B39%C2%A002%2097950567>
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978<tel:%2B39%2002%203206%206978>
Skype: gorgonilla
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2015-09-25 11:32 GMT+02:00 Theodore Zahariadis <zahariad@synelixis.com<zahariad@synelixis.com>>:
Dear FI-ADOPT Call 2 Projects,
The FI-ADOPT Call 2 Projects intermediate review has been fixed on 27 October 2015.
It will take place remotely using skype. In case you have a problem using skype, please
inform us to arrange for an alternative method.
Steps till the Review
------------------------------
1) Upload all your deliverables to the 360.eai.eu<http://360.eai.eu> platform
The hard deadline is Monday 19 October.
In case one or more deliverables are demos or "Other", please prepare
a video or presentation, upload it to a file sharing system
(e.g. dropbox) and upload a document with a link to the deliverable.
2) Share with me Theodore.Zahariadis your skype ID so that we
will be ready for the review.
3) Be well prepared as the review schedule will be strictly kept.
4) Update the 360.eai site. e.g. MigraineNet is the only Call 2 project that
still has no logo uploaded, after 6 months!
Review procedure
------------------------------
Each project will have a review of 40 minutes. The review schedule is attached. Each project will:
1) Make a presentation (max. 15 minutes) of
- the service/application idea and approach
- justify the GEs/DSEs utilization and the level of integration
- justify the SME/service sustainability.
2) Demonstrate the current version of the application (screen sharing) (max. 15 minutes)
3) Q&A (max. 10 minutes)
Exceptions:
SPEAKY has already been presented to the EC; thus they will make only an application demo and answer questions.
BREAD (call 1 project) did not make any demonstration in the previous review. A demonstration is expected at this review.
After the Review
------------------------------
After the Review, a Review Report will be compiled and sent to you in a few days.
Given that all deliverables are accepted, you will be requested to send the 2nd Financial
Statement. Yet, if one or more deliverables are not accepted, corrective actions will be needed.
Best Regard
Theodore
| Assignee | Ozdemir, Omer Faruk [ oozdemir ] | ilknur chulani [ ilknur.chulani ] |
Hi Ilknur,
let's go for Butapest 2 so!
We'll see how to test the App Generator later on.
Thanks!
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802
Tel: +39 02 97280169 (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978
Skype: gorgonilla
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Adding the new community upgrade requests Luca filled in
Ok, then ☺ I directed your new request to the Budapest2 node team, and updated the ticket to indicate you prefer to continue to use Massimo’s id as the community account holder.
You should hear back from the node team shortly. Please let us know if you still have difficulties after the migration.
Kind regards,
ilknur
From: Luca Viggiani luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:57 PM
To: Chulani, Ilknur
Cc: Theodore Zahariadis; Kate Pigden; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es; fiware-fiadopt-coaching@lists.fiware.org; Massimo Corna
Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Hi Ilknur,
let's go for Butapest 2 so!
We'll see how to test the App Generator later on.
Thanks!
http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802
Tel: +39 02 97280169 (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978
Skype: gorgonilla
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2015-09-29 15:47 GMT+02:00 Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net<ilknur.chulani@atos.net>>:
Hi Luca,
I am not so familiar with the App Generator Specific Enabler, as I am more focused on the core Fiware platform generic enablers - so I am not sure on what nodes this SE is available. Have you already checked with the SE owner in this regard? I see their contact info at : http://lab.mediafi.org/discover-appgenerator.html.
We can proceed with the Lannion node in that case if you would like. An alternative is to download and install your own copy on the node you would like to work on, but if you would like to use the global instance already installed, let’s proceed with the Lannion node.
Please let me know either way. Kind regards,
ilknur
From: Luca Viggiani luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com<mailto:luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
To: Chulani, Ilknur
Cc: Theodore Zahariadis; Kate Pigden; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es<djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es>; fiware-fiadopt-coaching@lists.fiware.org<fiware-fiadopt-coaching@lists.fiware.org>; Massimo Corna
Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Ilknur,
thanks for you reply.
We selected Lannion because as far as we could see, the "App Generator" Enabler seems to be available in trial mode to that node only.
But If it would be possible to try the App Generator even in Spanish o Budapest2, and those nodes are more stable an mature, to us is even better.
These are the GE's we're using:
- Identity Manager
- Authentication PDP
- PEP Proxy
- Object Storage
- WStore
- (AppGenerator)
As long as they are available and stable, any node would be ok to us.
No problem for moving data and VMs; we'll take care of it.
Finally, as you're moving our account, can you please keep the existing one (massimo.corna@krill.eu<massimo.corna@krill.eu>) and drop my new request (luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com<luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com>)? If it's not possible, no problem.
Thanks!
http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802<tel:%2B39%20340%203627802>
Tel: +39 02 97280169<tel:%2B39%2002%2097280169> (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567<tel:%2B39%C2%A002%2097950567>
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978<tel:%2B39%2002%203206%206978>
Skype: gorgonilla
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2015-09-29 14:17 GMT+02:00 Chulani, Ilknur <ilknur.chulani@atos.net<ilknur.chulani@atos.net>>:
Dear Luca,
Apologies for the late reply, our office was closed due to bank holidays. Are you still interested in moving to the Spanish node? I see a new community account request in our ticketing system , but this request has Lannion as the preferred node. Lannion node will be undergoing some maintenance in the next few days, so I would humbly suggest proceeding with the Spain node as you originally intended, or Budapest2 as Theo has suggested.
One thing to keep in mind though, the node teams would only migrate your account and quota to the new node, but you would be responsible for moving your VMs, data, etc.
If you could confirm that is still ok with you, I can facilitate the migration request to Spanish node with the node teams. Please let me know.
Kind regards,
ilknur
From: Theodore Zahariadis zahariad@synelixis.com<mailto:zahariad@synelixis.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'Luca Viggiani'
Cc: 'Kate Pigden'; Chulani, Ilknur; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es<djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es>
Subject: RE: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Luca,
I am very sorry for all these issues.
Yet, the GEs that you present here are among the most mature. Many projects are actively
using them. Moreover, the supervisors are assigned so that they may support the projects and
(as unfortunately, we also can't solve the problems) in most cases escalate the problems or
bring you in contact with the FI-Core/Fi-Lab team.
This is why also technical training and F2F meetings have been organized.
With respect to the FI_LAB, from what I know you have to register using the following link: https://account.lab.fiware.org/sign_up/.
After registration, using the same link you ask to become community member via the "Request Community Account upgrade button".
Via this procedure you also request the node, the CPUS cores, RAM, ..., the object storage capacity etc.
For example, I think that Budapest2 node is also quite stable.
Details are available at the following link http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FIWARE_Lab:_Upgrade_to_Community_Account
If you can't move from Trento node maybe a simpler solution could be to open a new account?
I am copying Ilknur and David so they may help further.
Best regards,
Theodore
From: Luca Viggiani luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Theodore Zahariadis
Cc: Kate Pigden
Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review
Dear Theodore,
thank you very much for your email and for detailed program.
I take the opportunity to make you aware of the conversation I had with Kate (as he suggested) this morning about some technical difficulties we're having with the FI-Lab and the GEs.
We've have spent much more time than planned for the evaluation phase of the GE's. This was mainly due to:
• the low maturity of many GE's
• lack of documentation / accuracy
• availability of those GE in the FI-WARE Lab (especially in the node we've been assigned to - Trento)
Since this has become a critical aspect for the successful implementation of the project, we had to shrink down the number of GE's we plan to use to the core ones only, subsequently we'll have to implement the other features by our own.
Please also consider that we had an early warning by the technical tutor during a one-to-one coaching session around May: they strongly suggested to shrink down the number of GEs (they said not more than two) because "it won't be easy to learn ad integrate them" they said.
Here is the list of the GE we decided to keep as the core ones, although some of them are still in a critical status (green = ok; red = critical):
• Authentication (Identity Manager + Authentication PDP + PEP Proxy): this is working fine and currently integrated in our App
• Object Storage: this is the most critical one as it will be used to store all contents users will produce with our app. Currently the GE is not available at the FI-Lab node we've been assigned (Trento). We've exchanged several emails with them and in the end they informed that it might became available by the end of October (not officially stated). This is definitely too late for a successful completion of the project. Also it will not allow us to show something significant during the upcoming review by FI-ADOPT planned in October (as defined by the contract)
• WStore: We were unable to test is out until yesterday as the API documentation lacks of some important information needed for a successful integration within our APP. Fortunately we've been supported by the GE maintainer -Francisco de la Vega (fdelavega@fi.upm.es<fdelavega@fi.upm.es>) - who has been very helpful and put as in the position to at least start "playing" with the GE API
• App Generator: as far as we could see so far, a trial version of this Enabler is available only for those project assigned to the Spanish node of the FI-Labs, thus not to us. We need to try this Enabler out in order to check whether we can actually use it or find another way to implement a very important feature for our app: export lessons as stand-alone iOS or Android Apps.
Our concerns at the moment are about the actual implementation of the App within the end of the project but also (more urgent) to be in a position to show some progress during the upcoming review.
On the deliverable side (documentation) we're at a good point and we'll be definitely post it on the eai360 platform by the requested date.
On the product side, I don't feel we'll be able to show something really functioning by October due to the situation described above, other than some mock-ups.
In any case, we would like to ask if it possible to move our accounts to the Spanish node of the FI-Lab platform so that we'll be able to start using the two critical GEs ASAP. By some emails we exchanged with the Trento node (they are in Italian sorry), we got the feeling that not all nodes are at the same level / maturity. Also, we tried using some pre-built server images to overcome the issue with those GE and we discovered that one of them is password protected (Trento was not even aware of that, nor they know the password) and in some other cases they are buggy or not up-to-date. You can also imagine that this was a very time consuming and, in some cases, worthless activity.
Moving to the Spanish node would help us booting the development phase and try to recover the delay.
Thanks in advance for your support,
Kind regards,
http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802<tel:%2B39%20340%203627802>
Tel: +39 02 97280169<tel:%2B39%2002%2097280169> (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567<tel:%2B39%C2%A002%2097950567>
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978<tel:%2B39%2002%203206%206978>
Skype: gorgonilla
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2015-09-25 11:32 GMT+02:00 Theodore Zahariadis <zahariad@synelixis.com<zahariad@synelixis.com>>:
Dear FI-ADOPT Call 2 Projects,
The FI-ADOPT Call 2 Projects intermediate review has been fixed on 27 October 2015.
It will take place remotely using skype. In case you have a problem using skype, please
inform us to arrange for an alternative method.
Steps till the Review
------------------------------
1) Upload all your deliverables to the 360.eai.eu<http://360.eai.eu> platform
The hard deadline is Monday 19 October.
In case one or more deliverables are demos or "Other", please prepare
a video or presentation, upload it to a file sharing system
(e.g. dropbox) and upload a document with a link to the deliverable.
2) Share with me Theodore.Zahariadis your skype ID so that we
will be ready for the review.
3) Be well prepared as the review schedule will be strictly kept.
4) Update the 360.eai site. e.g. MigraineNet is the only Call 2 project that
still has no logo uploaded, after 6 months!
Review procedure
------------------------------
Each project will have a review of 40 minutes. The review schedule is attached. Each project will:
1) Make a presentation (max. 15 minutes) of
- the service/application idea and approach
- justify the GEs/DSEs utilization and the level of integration
- justify the SME/service sustainability.
2) Demonstrate the current version of the application (screen sharing) (max. 15 minutes)
3) Q&A (max. 10 minutes)
Exceptions:
SPEAKY has already been presented to the EC; thus they will make only an application demo and answer questions.
BREAD (call 1 project) did not make any demonstration in the previous review. A demonstration is expected at this review.
After the Review
------------------------------
After the Review, a Review Report will be compiled and sent to you in a few days.
Given that all deliverables are accepted, you will be requested to send the 2nd Financial
Statement. Yet, if one or more deliverables are not accepted, corrective actions will be needed.
Best Regard
Theodore
| Link | This issue relates to FLUA-582 [ FLUA-582 ] |
| Link | This issue relates to FLUA-584 [ FLUA-584 ] |
Added links to FLUA-582 and FLUA-584 , the original request made by Massimo for existing Trento account
| Status | Open [ 1 ] | In Progress [ 3 ] |
| Description |
Dear Luca, Apologies for the late reply, our office was closed due to bank holidays. Are you still interested in moving to the Spanish node? I see a new community account request in our ticketing system , but this request has Lannion as the preferred node. Lannion node will be undergoing some maintenance in the next few days, so I would humbly suggest proceeding with the Spain node as you originally intended, or Budapest2 as Theo has suggested. One thing to keep in mind though, the node teams would only migrate your account and quota to the new node, but you would be responsible for moving your VMs, data, etc. If you could confirm that is still ok with you, I can facilitate the migration request to Spanish node with the node teams. Please let me know. Kind regards, ilknur From: Theodore Zahariadis [mailto:zahariad@synelixis.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:41 PM To: 'Luca Viggiani' Cc: 'Kate Pigden'; Chulani, Ilknur; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es Subject: RE: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review Dear Luca, I am very sorry for all these issues. Yet, the GEs that you present here are among the most mature. Many projects are actively using them. Moreover, the supervisors are assigned so that they may support the projects and (as unfortunately, we also can't solve the problems) in most cases escalate the problems or bring you in contact with the FI-Core/Fi-Lab team. This is why also technical training and F2F meetings have been organized. With respect to the FI_LAB, from what I know you have to register using the following link: https://account.lab.fiware.org/sign_up/. After registration, using the same link you ask to become community member via the "Request Community Account upgrade button". Via this procedure you also request the node, the CPUS cores, RAM, ..., the object storage capacity etc. For example, I think that Budapest2 node is also quite stable. Details are available at the following link http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FIWARE_Lab:_Upgrade_to_Community_Account If you can't move from Trento node maybe a simpler solution could be to open a new account? I am copying Ilknur and David so they may help further. Best regards, Theodore From: Luca Viggiani [mailto:luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:07 PM To: Theodore Zahariadis Cc: Kate Pigden Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review Dear Theodore, thank you very much for your email and for detailed program. I take the opportunity to make you aware of the conversation I had with Kate (as he suggested) this morning about some technical difficulties we're having with the FI-Lab and the GEs. We've have spent much more time than planned for the evaluation phase of the GE's. This was mainly due to: · the low maturity of many GE's · lack of documentation / accuracy · availability of those GE in the FI-WARE Lab (especially in the node we've been assigned to - Trento) Since this has become a critical aspect for the successful implementation of the project, we had to shrink down the number of GE's we plan to use to the core ones only, subsequently we'll have to implement the other features by our own. Please also consider that we had an early warning by the technical tutor during a one-to-one coaching session around May: they strongly suggested to shrink down the number of GEs (they said not more than two) because "it won't be easy to learn ad integrate them" they said. Here is the list of the GE we decided to keep as the core ones, although some of them are still in a critical status (green = ok; red = critical): · Authentication (Identity Manager + Authentication PDP + PEP Proxy): this is working fine and currently integrated in our App · Object Storage: this is the most critical one as it will be used to store all contents users will produce with our app. Currently the GE is not available at the FI-Lab node we've been assigned (Trento). We've exchanged several emails with them and in the end they informed that it might became available by the end of October (not officially stated). This is definitely too late for a successful completion of the project. Also it will not allow us to show something significant during the upcoming review by FI-ADOPT planned in October (as defined by the contract) · WStore: We were unable to test is out until yesterday as the API documentation lacks of some important information needed for a successful integration within our APP. Fortunately we've been supported by the GE maintainer -Francisco de la Vega (fdelavega@fi.upm.es<mailto:fdelavega@fi.upm.es>) - who has been very helpful and put as in the position to at least start "playing" with the GE API · App Generator: as far as we could see so far, a trial version of this Enabler is available only for those project assigned to the Spanish node of the FI-Labs, thus not to us. We need to try this Enabler out in order to check whether we can actually use it or find another way to implement a very important feature for our app: export lessons as stand-alone iOS or Android Apps. Our concerns at the moment are about the actual implementation of the App within the end of the project but also (more urgent) to be in a position to show some progress during the upcoming review. On the deliverable side (documentation) we're at a good point and we'll be definitely post it on the eai360 platform by the requested date. On the product side, I don't feel we'll be able to show something really functioning by October due to the situation described above, other than some mock-ups. In any case, we would like to ask if it possible to move our accounts to the Spanish node of the FI-Lab platform so that we'll be able to start using the two critical GEs ASAP. By some emails we exchanged with the Trento node (they are in Italian sorry), we got the feeling that not all nodes are at the same level / maturity. Also, we tried using some pre-built server images to overcome the issue with those GE and we discovered that one of them is password protected (Trento was not even aware of that, nor they know the password) and in some other cases they are buggy or not up-to-date. You can also imagine that this was a very time consuming and, in some cases, worthless activity. Moving to the Spanish node would help us booting the development phase and try to recover the delay. Thanks in advance for your support, Kind regards, [http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png] Luca Viggiani Technical Director and Quality System Manager E-Level Communication Srl Piazza Liberazione, 25 20013 Magenta (MI) Mob: +39 340 3627802 Tel: +39 02 97280169 (Ext. 104) Tel: +39 02 97950567 Fax: +39 02 3206 6978 Skype: gorgonilla [http://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/48_px_web_icons/48/Leaf.png] Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. Any improper use of this email and its attachments will lead to the person responsible having to deal with all the associated civil and criminal consequences of their actions (Legislative Decree 196/03 and Directive 2002/58/EC). The sender shall not be liable for the improper or incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system. he sender does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that this communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. 2015-09-25 11:32 GMT+02:00 Theodore Zahariadis <zahariad@synelixis.com<mailto:zahariad@synelixis.com>>: Dear FI-ADOPT Call 2 Projects, The FI-ADOPT Call 2 Projects intermediate review has been fixed on 27 October 2015. It will take place remotely using skype. In case you have a problem using skype, please inform us to arrange for an alternative method. Steps till the Review ------------------------------ 1) Upload all your deliverables to the 360.eai.eu<http://360.eai.eu> platform The hard deadline is Monday 19 October. In case one or more deliverables are demos or "Other", please prepare a video or presentation, upload it to a file sharing system (e.g. dropbox) and upload a document with a link to the deliverable. 2) Share with me Theodore.Zahariadis your skype ID so that we will be ready for the review. 3) Be well prepared as the review schedule will be strictly kept. 4) Update the 360.eai site. e.g. MigraineNet is the only Call 2 project that still has no logo uploaded, after 6 months! Review procedure ------------------------------ Each project will have a review of 40 minutes. The review schedule is attached. Each project will: 1) Make a presentation (max. 15 minutes) of - the service/application idea and approach - justify the GEs/DSEs utilization and the level of integration - justify the SME/service sustainability. 2) Demonstrate the current version of the application (screen sharing) (max. 15 minutes) 3) Q&A (max. 10 minutes) Exceptions: SPEAKY has already been presented to the EC; thus they will make only an application demo and answer questions. BREAD (call 1 project) did not make any demonstration in the previous review. A demonstration is expected at this review. After the Review ------------------------------ After the Review, a Review Report will be compiled and sent to you in a few days. Given that all deliverables are accepted, you will be requested to send the 2nd Financial Statement. Yet, if one or more deliverables are not accepted, corrective actions will be needed. 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Dear Luca, Apologies for the late reply, our office was closed due to bank holidays. Are you still interested in moving to the Spanish node? I see a new community account request in our ticketing system , but this request has Lannion as the preferred node. Lannion node will be undergoing some maintenance in the next few days, so I would humbly suggest proceeding with the Spain node as you originally intended, or Budapest2 as Theo has suggested. One thing to keep in mind though, the node teams would only migrate your account and quota to the new node, but you would be responsible for moving your VMs, data, etc. If you could confirm that is still ok with you, I can facilitate the migration request to Spanish node with the node teams. Please let me know. Kind regards, ilknur From: Theodore Zahariadis [mailto:zahariad@synelixis.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:41 PM To: 'Luca Viggiani' Cc: 'Kate Pigden'; Chulani, Ilknur; djb@gatv.ssr.upm.es Subject: RE: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review Dear Luca, I am very sorry for all these issues. Yet, the GEs that you present here are among the most mature. Many projects are actively using them. Moreover, the supervisors are assigned so that they may support the projects and (as unfortunately, we also can't solve the problems) in most cases escalate the problems or bring you in contact with the FI-Core/Fi-Lab team. This is why also technical training and F2F meetings have been organized. With respect to the FI_LAB, from what I know you have to register using the following link: https://account.lab.fiware.org/sign_up/. After registration, using the same link you ask to become community member via the "Request Community Account upgrade button". Via this procedure you also request the node, the CPUS cores, RAM, ..., the object storage capacity etc. For example, I think that Budapest2 node is also quite stable. Details are available at the following link http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FIWARE_Lab:_Upgrade_to_Community_Account If you can't move from Trento node maybe a simpler solution could be to open a new account? I am copying Ilknur and David so they may help further. Best regards, Theodore From: Luca Viggiani [mailto:luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:07 PM To: Theodore Zahariadis Cc: Kate Pigden Subject: Re: [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review Dear Theodore, thank you very much for your email and for detailed program. I take the opportunity to make you aware of the conversation I had with Kate (as he suggested) this morning about some technical difficulties we're having with the FI-Lab and the GEs. We've have spent much more time than planned for the evaluation phase of the GE's. This was mainly due to: · the low maturity of many GE's · lack of documentation / accuracy · availability of those GE in the FI-WARE Lab (especially in the node we've been assigned to - Trento) Since this has become a critical aspect for the successful implementation of the project, we had to shrink down the number of GE's we plan to use to the core ones only, subsequently we'll have to implement the other features by our own. Please also consider that we had an early warning by the technical tutor during a one-to-one coaching session around May: they strongly suggested to shrink down the number of GEs (they said not more than two) because "it won't be easy to learn ad integrate them" they said. Here is the list of the GE we decided to keep as the core ones, although some of them are still in a critical status (green = ok; red = critical): · Authentication (Identity Manager + Authentication PDP + PEP Proxy): this is working fine and currently integrated in our App · Object Storage: this is the most critical one as it will be used to store all contents users will produce with our app. Currently the GE is not available at the FI-Lab node we've been assigned (Trento). We've exchanged several emails with them and in the end they informed that it might became available by the end of October (not officially stated). This is definitely too late for a successful completion of the project. Also it will not allow us to show something significant during the upcoming review by FI-ADOPT planned in October (as defined by the contract) · WStore: We were unable to test is out until yesterday as the API documentation lacks of some important information needed for a successful integration within our APP. Fortunately we've been supported by the GE maintainer -Francisco de la Vega (fdelavega@fi.upm.es<mailto:fdelavega@fi.upm.es>) - who has been very helpful and put as in the position to at least start "playing" with the GE API · App Generator: as far as we could see so far, a trial version of this Enabler is available only for those project assigned to the Spanish node of the FI-Labs, thus not to us. We need to try this Enabler out in order to check whether we can actually use it or find another way to implement a very important feature for our app: export lessons as stand-alone iOS or Android Apps. Our concerns at the moment are about the actual implementation of the App within the end of the project but also (more urgent) to be in a position to show some progress during the upcoming review. On the deliverable side (documentation) we're at a good point and we'll be definitely post it on the eai360 platform by the requested date. On the product side, I don't feel we'll be able to show something really functioning by October due to the situation described above, other than some mock-ups. In any case, we would like to ask if it possible to move our accounts to the Spanish node of the FI-Lab platform so that we'll be able to start using the two critical GEs ASAP. By some emails we exchanged with the Trento node (they are in Italian sorry), we got the feeling that not all nodes are at the same level / maturity. Also, we tried using some pre-built server images to overcome the issue with those GE and we discovered that one of them is password protected (Trento was not even aware of that, nor they know the password) and in some other cases they are buggy or not up-to-date. You can also imagine that this was a very time consuming and, in some cases, worthless activity. Moving to the Spanish node would help us booting the development phase and try to recover the delay. Thanks in advance for your support, Kind regards, [http://www.e-levelcom.com/elevel/elevel_180.png] Luca Viggiani Technical Director and Quality System Manager E-Level Communication Srl Piazza Liberazione, 25 20013 Magenta (MI) Mob: +39 340 3627802 Tel: +39 02 97280169 (Ext. 104) Tel: +39 02 97950567 Fax: +39 02 3206 6978 Skype: gorgonilla |
Closing this ticket as the original request for moving to budapest node was answered. The other issues the SME is having are being dealt with in the FLUA (FLUA-1821) and node (FLUA-1844) tickets.
| Status | In Progress [ 3 ] | Answered [ 10104 ] |
| Resolution | Done [ 10000 ] | |
| Status | Answered [ 10104 ] | Closed [ 6 ] |
| Summary | Re: [Fiware-fiadopt-coaching] [FIADOPT_CALL-2] FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review | FIWARE.Request.Coach.FI-ADOPT.Re: FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review |
| Summary | FIWARE.Request.Coach.FI-ADOPT.Re: FI-ADOPT Call 2 Intermediate Review | FIWARE.Request.Coach.FI-ADOPT.TeachByApp.Lab.MoveToBudapestNode |
| Transition | Time In Source Status | Execution Times | Last Executer | Last Execution Date | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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1d 16m | 1 | ilknur chulani | 30/Sep/15 2:36 PM | |||||
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6d 21h 2m | 1 | ilknur chulani | 07/Oct/15 11:39 AM | |||||
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2s | 1 | ilknur chulani | 07/Oct/15 11:39 AM |
Dear Ilknur,
thanks for you reply.
We selected Lannion because as far as we could see, the "App Generator"
Enabler seems to be available in trial mode to that node only.
But If it would be possible to try the App Generator even in Spanish o
Budapest2, and those nodes are more stable an mature, to us is even better.
These are the GE's we're using:
As long as they are available and stable, any node would be ok to us.
No problem for moving data and VMs; we'll take care of it.
Finally, as you're moving our account, can you please keep the existing one
(massimo.corna@krill.eu) and drop my new request (
luca.viggiani@e-levelcom.com)? If it's not possible, no problem.
Thanks!
Luca Viggiani
Technical Director and Quality System Manager
E-Level Communication Srl
Piazza Liberazione, 25
20013 Magenta (MI)
Mob: +39 340 3627802
Tel: +39 02 97280169 (Ext. 104)
Tel: +39 02 97950567
Fax: +39 02 3206 6978
Skype: gorgonilla
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